Is the Guard beneficial to public/private sector intelligence or contracting jobs?

[JDTC]

Hey all,

One of my big reasons for enlisting in the Army Nat'l Guard is the training I will hopefully receive in the 35 series specifically. Intel has been the position I've wanted in the military since I first started considering it as an option.

My question is, will this training be a benefit that I would be able to put on a resume if I were trying to get a job with a defense contractor company, or perhaps a government position in the DoD or CIA? Are any of the 35 series positions more conducive to a civilian intel career than any of the others?

Thanks.

[greenhornet]

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[greenhornet]

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[JDTC]

Cool site, thanks for the link

[Major General Discharge]

The greatest benefit of the guard seems to be the free tuition in my opinion. That will be much more important to your career than MOS training.

[Chief Kemosabe]

The greatest benefit of the guard seems to be the free tuition in my opinion. That will be much more important to your career than MOS training.

That is a very funny name to post with.

[Major General Discharge]

That is a very funny name to post with.

Thank you, I don't know why it just popped into my head while I was registering a name.

[lindy]

Hey all,

One of my big reasons for enlisting in the Army Nat'l Guard is the training I will hopefully receive in the 35 series specifically. Intel has been the position I've wanted in the military since I first started considering it as an option.

My question is, will this training be a benefit that I would be able to put on a resume if I were trying to get a job with a defense contractor company, or perhaps a government position in the DoD or CIA? Are any of the 35 series positions more conducive to a civilian intel career than any of the others?

Thanks.

It totally depends on your MOS and the EXPERIENCE you have. AIT is nice on a resume but isn't going to lock you into a job offer like several deployments will. Also consider signing on with a contractor while persuing a USG job (again, more experience). The biggest thing that any 35 series job will give is your clearance but most jobs require at least a CI poly as well.

Good luck.

[show_stopper999]

If you want to get into the intel field, enlist in an intel MOS and work into the NCO ranks. I'm in the field on the civilian side. AIT + any follow on schools and experience is great.

When myself or my office (or those I've worked for) look to hire, if its a vet we look for an NCO or senior officer, a junior enlisted or junior officer is kinda not as useful. For that we can get an intern who's been through the civilian side of the schools.

[SteveLord]

The greatest benefit of the guard seems to be the free tuition in my opinion. That will be much more important to your career than MOS training.

Tuition for my state will be cut in half by spring. Expect that to spread.

[Major General Discharge]

Tuition for my state will be cut in half by spring. Expect that to spread.

Is your State in debt? We got oil money up in here. Plus we never were in debt. But I agree with you on general terms that may spread to States that are strapped for cash and don't care too much about soldiers.

[Daric Wade]

Well, I enlisted as a 35F and got reclassed to 35N for a deployment. Did the reclass to 35N in 2010, and a deployment in 2011. Started dropping my resume on various websites (Clearance Jobs, ClearedConnections, Monster, LinkedIn, etc.), and I've been getting invitations to apply for various jobs here and overseas ever since. I went with a contracting company here at Ft Gordon, GA, and should be starting contract work in October. From what I've seen, 35N and 35P are hot-button MOSs in the civilian world.

Of course, that's contractor work. To be a NSA or another three-letter employee, a degree is a requirement.

[lindy]

Well, I enlisted as a 35F and got reclassed to 35N for a deployment. Did the reclass to 35N in 2010, and a deployment in 2011. Started dropping my resume on various websites (Clearance Jobs, ClearedConnections, Monster, LinkedIn, etc.), and I've been getting invitations to apply for various jobs here and overseas ever since. I went with a contracting company here at Ft Gordon, GA, and should be starting contract work in October. From what I've seen, 35N and 35P are hot-button MOSs in the civilian world.

Of course, that's contractor work. To be a NSA or another three-letter employee, a degree is a requirement.

While a degree helps, it is not a requirement for employment.

[Daric Wade]

While a degree helps, it is not a requirement for employment.

Fair enough, but substitute requirements are fairly substantial and usually beyond the scope of what a Soldier starting an intelligence career would have. One job I looked at had requirements of 2 years' experience and a degree or eight years of experience without a degree.

Calling college a 'requirement' for the Agency was a mistake on my part, but the alternate criteria make it effectively true for people enlisting in SIGINT MOS's and hoping to slide right into the Agency.

[Polo08816]

If you have a TS clearance + an in-demand degree such as engineering or computer science, you're golden.

[Highwind]

I hear a lot of people expecting their enlistment to be a sure ticket to a career in the civilian world. I think the Guard makes you an amazing person and that your attitude will impress prospective employers. However, I think you still have to work on brushing up your skills and building your marketability (maybe made up word?) On your own. I agree that the biggest benefit for employment is the schooling assistance. Work hard in your civilian life and your future Guard life and you will succeed. Mope storms and wait for opportunity to fall into your lap because of acheivements in your life and you probably won't go as far. If you want something, go out and get it. That said, I know the Guard will help your chances not just from the benefits but because it will change you into a better person.

[Lance13A]

It's generally the security clearance that comes along with particular MOSs that helps more than the MOS qualification itself. Pair it with a relevant degree, and it's worth a lot. Your prospective boss could give two cents about whether you have the clearance for Artillery (my case) or for Intel (my co-worker's case).

Step 1: Get an MOS with a security clearance
Step 2: Get a degree
Step 3: Profit