Ruck March Adequate?

[TylerM22]

Hey everybody. I am almost done with my whole enlistment process for 19D. I was curious about rucking in OSUT. Im at 5 miles with a 30 lb pack and I can do it at about 18 mins a mile. Is that good? Bad? More weight?

[MPThink]

Honestly, you'll build up to the longer ruck marches in BCT, but it's a great workout so I'd keep at it without adding more weight (don't hurt yourself before shipping). Increase your distance and speed, but keep your pack's weight the same. I usually strive for 15min miles or faster. Try adding hills and elevation change into your routine if you haven't already done so.

[TylerM22]

Yeah ive been walking around neighborhoods but there are a lot of hills and different elevations on my usual route. Whats the milage and weights for BCT? Thanks for the info.

[Wobbly Emu]

Tyler, keep your present distance, add about 5 pounds to the ruck (not including water) and get under 15 mins per mile.

You will well ahead of 98% of your peers in BCT. Good luck!!

[SteveLord]

I personally never see the point in new recruits doing this. No doubt it's good exercise, but it doesn't emulate most of the conditions at boot camp and you do not march for speed either.

[0844]

I personally never see the point in new recruits doing this. No doubt it's good exercise, but it doesn't emulate most of the conditions at boot camp and you do not march for speed either.

It's also ridiculously boring. Going hiking or backpacking is tons of fun, but wandering through a residential area for a few hours carrying a heavy sack is just mind-numbing. To each their own, though, I suppose.

[Chris36]

I do this, but I incorporate it with actual camping in a State park; I just hike REALLY far out....

[Explosive Hazard]

It's also ridiculously boring. Going hiking or backpacking is tons of fun, but wandering through a residential area for a few hours carrying a heavy sack is just mind-numbing. To each their own, though, I suppose.

For some of us like myself this is the only option. 15 mile ruck march through the city ***** but it's a better option than not doing it at all.

OP stay at your current mileage and weight, maybe add another 5 lbs. What ever you do DO NOT RUN! Resist the temptation. Your body wont be ready to handle it and you can run the risk of injuring yourself. I run during my ruckmarches but it is more of an airborne shuffle. I know you didn't mention anything about running but just trying to give you a heads up. Shorter faster steps will help you bring that time from 18 inutes to under 15 minutes a mile.

[EOrsini]

For some of us like myself this is the only option. 15 mile ruck march through the city ***** but it's a better option than not doing it at all.

OP stay at your current mileage and weight, maybe add another 5 lbs. What ever you do DO NOT RUN! Resist the temptation. Your body wont be ready to handle it and you can run the risk of injuring yourself. I run during my ruckmarches but it is more of an airborne shuffle. I know you didn't mention anything about running but just trying to give you a heads up. Shorter faster steps will help you bring that time from 18 inutes to under 15 minutes a mile.

This is Great advice. Though you may see some people run to make it, it will hurt them in the long run or even on the same test. I walked, and sometimes slightly airborne shuffled on my 12 miler at air assault, while some of the people who passed me running were tired and slow by the last few miles, and didn't make the time, or rolled their ankles on the way. Be quick and deliberate, and short fast steps. And I'm not tall, I'm only 5'4, so don't think it's all about long legs!

[AirCav]

my 123 miler at air assault

You marched 123 miles? Holy moose. Is that normal?

[SteveLord]

If you really want to test yourself in a march, get about 50 other people to do it with you...staggered, on 4 hours of sleep, while carrying a super soaker at the ready and filled up with enough water to make it 7lbs.

Oh yeah..and you have to stop every 5 minutes while someone out of the other 50 people unscrew themselves and get in proper formation.

[TylerM22]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm not dumb enough to run on a ruck haha. I know that much. The purpose of it is just to become aquainted to a ruck before I get to BCT.

[jaydez]

When I went to BCT at Ft Sill I had never rucked before in my life. The first ruck was only a mile or so to the tower. It felt like one of the hardest things in the world and felt like it took for ever (actually only about 20 min). But you ruck all the time while in BCT to and from different locations. By the time you do the final ruck you get back to your drill pad (or where ever you end up) and say to yourself... "that’s it? that wasn't so bad". The Drill Sergeants will set the pace and you will stop a lot for the back 10% of your company to catch up and to get water.

The only thing you need to worry about during a ruck is drinking water (lots of water) and taking care of your feet (black socks under green with foot powder on your feet and between the sock layers with mole skin on the back of your heal or any other hot spot).

[NJ732]

When I went to BCT at Ft Sill I had never rucked before in my life. The first ruck was only a mile or so to the tower. It felt like one of the hardest things in the world and felt like it took for ever (actually only about 20 min). But you ruck all the time while in BCT to and from different locations. By the time you do the final ruck you get back to your drill pad (or where ever you end up) and say to yourself... "that’s it? that wasn't so bad". The Drill Sergeants will set the pace and you will stop a lot for the back 10% of your company to catch up and to get water.

The only thing you need to worry about during a ruck is drinking water (lots of water) and taking care of your feet (black socks under green with foot powder on your feet and between the sock layers with mole skin on the back of your heal or any other hot spot).

LOL! Stop? On a road march? ¿Que?

[Chief Kemosabe]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm not dumb enough to run on a ruck haha. I know that much. The purpose of it is just to become aquainted to a ruck before I get to BCT.

I am assisting soldiers with their EFMB so we have to ruck under 3 hours so there is a little jogging in between. Similar to air assault school.

[chd]

If you really want to test yourself in a march, get about 50 other people to do it with you...staggered, on 4 hours of sleep, while carrying a super soaker at the ready and filled up with enough water to make it 7lbs.

Oh yeah..and you have to stop every 5 minutes while someone out of the other 50 people unscrew themselves and get in proper formation.

This... and since you should not be running with a ruck (unless you're in a competition or getting chased by someone) get faster by increasing your stride length.

[EOrsini]

You marched 123 miles? Holy moose. Is that normal?

HAHA EDITED! I didn't notice that lol

[A.L.NJ11B]

LOL! Stop? On a road march? ¿Que?

LOL....They don't stop at benning (maybe if your a pogue). If you fall behind the roadguard your a fallout.

[AShimon]

Feet, ankles, and water. Keep these in good order and your DS's will do the rest.

I never got a single blister or even worn skin during BCT. I never used powder. I don't think I have particularly tough feet. What did I do? Fox River Socks. Worth every penny.

[bigtex]

AShimon- I thought you were only allowed to bring white calf socks to BCT. Did your DS say anything about your socks?

[AShimon]

The Fox River socks I got were from the mini-PX near my Company. They are OD Green and no my DS did not say anything. YMMV tho. I am sure you could bring a few pairs to BCT from home or attempt to buy them there.

[eqmcclure]

The Fox River socks I got were from the mini-PX near my Company. They are OD Green and no my DS did not say anything. YMMV tho. I am sure you could bring a few pairs to BCT from home or attempt to buy them there.

I brought 2 pairs of Fox River socks with me, and bought another pair from the mini-PX while at Basic. Personally my favorite socks, especially for rucking. Others bought these or UnderArmour socks from the mini-PX. DS shouldn't care much about the socks.

All I can say is don't be that guy that wears his PT socks with his ACUs. Just saying.

[jwarren]

This is Great advice. Though you may see some people run to make it, it will hurt them in the long run or even on the same test. I walked, and sometimes slightly airborne shuffled on my 12 miler at air assault, while some of the people who passed me running were tired and slow by the last few miles, and didn't make the time, or rolled their ankles on the way. Be quick and deliberate, and short fast steps. And I'm not tall, I'm only 5'4, so don't think it's all about long legs!

Depends on the terrain. For instance, the 10-miler at the SF training detachment in Maryland is extremely hilly. The only way for most people to make time is to walk the inclines and run the declines.

For record events, I always count on having to do some running. I think that while training on your own, it's best to walk, although familiarizing yourself with the feel of running with a ruck on is important.

[o13starsnstripes]

If you really want to try and measure how good you are at marching with weight on go for an eventual goal of marching 20 miles a day wearing 60 pounds and do this for 7 days straight. If you can get to that point than God Bless you!

[jwarren]

If you really want to try and measure how good you are at marching with weight on go for an eventual goal of marching 20 miles a day wearing 60 pounds and do this for 7 days straight. If you can get to that point than God Bless you!

That is ridiculous and there is no set of record events in any US Army course that requires that mileage per week in order to prepare for it, period. Even attempting this will nearly guarantee some sort of injury before the end of the week.