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  • #16
    Re: State Military Reserve

    When I was in Afghanistan last year, I saw an AFN show that took place aboard a US Navy Ship that had Clark Howard in ACUs wearing CPT rank. But he is in the Georgia SDF.

    http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/clark-cares/georgia-state-defense-force/nFZb/
    Last edited by SF Hunter; September 23rd, 2013, 11:08 AM.

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    • #17
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      Love the Patriot movie!!!

      A prior service Navy soldier (who is our current Public Affairs Office SSG) was scheduled to deploy with the 40th ID to Afghanistan a few years back. He injured his shoulder and wasn't able to deploy. A subsequent surgery this year cost him attendance at WOC / OCS with me this fall.

      Again - it happens that SDF / SMR soldiers take on higher, federal roles, but it's based on the skill, qualifications and availability of the person. Nothing cookie cutter or promised! I tell individuals looking for some excitement (and pay) in their military role to join the NG, Army Reserve, Army or even the Marines. That isn't our role and I don't pretend that it is. We are a "What If?" solution.

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      • #18
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        I must admit I'm somewhat ignorant to the SDF/SMR besides seeing them around the armories at times.

        Can someone serve in both the SDF/SMR and the NG?

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        • #19
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          Here are some good info links.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califor...litary_Reserve

          http://www.militarymuseum.org/SMR%20History.html

          http://www.statedefenseforce.com/

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          • #20
            Re: State Military Reserve

            Recruiter that question was asked on this forum years ago.

            http://www.nationalguard.com/forums/...-the-same-time I miss Draco

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            • #21
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              Short answer is negative. You cannot have remaining IRR or federal time remaining if in the SMR/SDF. Federal comes first! At least for California.

              Other good info at www.csmrsoldier.com
              Last edited by Jarhead-turned-Mustang; September 20th, 2013, 10:57 PM.

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              • #22
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                I thought the term Mustang is used when you go from enlisted to officer in the DoD services.

                http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musta...itary_officer)

                I am a Mustang but I am content with Chief.
                Last edited by Chief Kemosabe; September 20th, 2013, 11:26 PM.

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                • #23
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                  You are correct. I went from enlisted Marine to enlisted CSMR to SMR OCS in 4 weeks. It should be fun!

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                  • #24
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                    Then again I've owned 1/2 dozen v8 Mustang and SVT cobras, and spent several years in a Cobra and Huey squadron, so I'm partial to both

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Jarhead-turned-Mustang View Post
                      You are correct. I went from enlisted Marine to enlisted CSMR to SMR OCS in 4 weeks. It should be fun!
                      SMR OCS is not the same as Army, Navy, Marines Federal OCS/WOCS, AF OTC, National Guard Traditional/Accelerated OCS, ROTC, West Point.

                      A mustang is slang term in the United States Armed Forces, referring to a commissioned officer who began his or her career as an enlisted service member.


                      SMR is not the US Army Forces so by definition your handle is wrong lol

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                      • #26
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                        Hmmm. So what was it called prior to the creation of a standing federal force?? I would offer The term would be applicable to both instances, and was around long before Wikipedia and the NG were created. So you know, SMR OCS is a 10 month course conducted at Camp SLO, by both CANG and SMR cadre. As I said earlier, we graduate shoulder to shoulder with our CANG counterparts.

                        I think there is some confusion that I am somehow implying SMR forces are equal to or better than federal forces. This is simply not the case. I am simply here to answer 1985vets question. If your input is no longer related to the OP's queries, let's not muddy the water and we can start another debate elsewhere. Personally I'll still wear those butter bars with just as much pride.
                        Last edited by Jarhead-turned-Mustang; September 21st, 2013, 12:44 AM.

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                        • #27
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                          Ok Jarhead, you can PM me anytime. But your Mustang assertion reminds of those NYPD Auxiliary Cops who feel they are the real thing because they wear a similar uniform and cute badge. Trust me if you mention that to any of the vets at the American Legion or VFW, it will raise eyebrows. I am just trying to educate you.

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                          • #28
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                            Done. I want to be clear for Vet1985 that serving the California Reserves is not the same as with the Army or other strictly federal branches. But for everyones consideration I would suggest a comparison of someone earning their commission via Annapolis (something my USMCR son is pursuing with our congressman's help) vs ROTC vs OCS vs Platoon Leader Course vs the different National Guard OCS courses around the country vs state OCS, WOC or direct commissions available to the president, governor and TAG in each state.

                            Each has different time and intensity requirements, but each produces an officer. I can find you a West Point grad who was drummed out for conduct unbecoming, and a NG or Title 32 state officer earning some of our nation's highest honors. Suggesting that the state militias are some how unworthy or otherwise inferior is to dishonor the very people who gave Americans independence, and subsequently fought in little skirmishes such as the War of 1812, Spanish American and of course the Civil War which gave rise to our modern National Guard format. That would be bad form IMHO.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by NYGuardRecruiter View Post
                              I must admit I'm somewhat ignorant to the SDF/SMR besides seeing them around the armories at times.

                              Can someone serve in both the SDF/SMR and the NG?
                              In new york dont they even have a state navy?

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                              • #30
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                                Yes, NY has one (http://dmna.ny.gov/), but I don't think it's as nice as the one Texas has, as their SDF is the largest in the country. http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/maritime-regiment.aspx

                                However while they don't have those EXTREMELY nicely equipped boat that the Texas DPS / Highway Patrol has, I'd wager they get to work alongside the highway patrol during......patrols! (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...-on-the-water/)

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