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    Hello,

    I've just finished BCT and AIT. I joined the NG with the intention of going SMP when I returned. Well, I've been back a couple months and have spoken with ROTC. They have a spot for me and are ready to contract me asap as an MS3. However, I just learned that my unit is scheduled for a deployment in January 2015. I haven't formally requested to go SMP and become a Cadet with my unit yet, but so far i've heard that I should expect to be denied by my unit, due to our scheduled deployment. I'm still going to try this option, but if i am denied, I was wondering what my options would be in becoming an officer.

    Could I do OCS even though my unit is deploying in a year in a half? I could graduate with my B.A. in less than a semester.

    Second, what is Direct Commissioning, and is this an option for me given my current situation?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

    When a unit deploys there is always a rear detachment so I don't see why your unit would deny your SMP for that reason.

    So are you wanting to go on the deployment with your unit or is your only concern SMP with your unit?

    And direct commission is not an option.

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    • #3
      Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

      The unit commander decides whether to have SMP cadets, and how many. Since the rear detachment isn't really a fully-functioning unit, your SMP experience may suffer there. Your state's OSM can find you another unit. Your SMP unit and your commissioning unit have no formal relationship, and socially you may find it easier to make the transition to a new group than with the group that knew you as a cadet.

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      • #4
        Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

        January 2015? Where is that to? Mozambique?

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        • #5
          Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

          Is that a serious question Chief? That sounds interesting....

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          • #6
            Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

            Chief: It's to Kuwait. What I worry is that I will be denied SMP so that I can go to kuwait, only to have the deployment cancelled a few months before scheduled (that is what happened with this unit's last deployment). So, no Kuwait + No ROTC= a lose lose situation for me.

            Rhadamanthus:Timing is my concern. The deployment is in 1.5 years. The earliest I could complete ROTC and Commission is in 2 years, as I will be entering as an MS3 and ROTC requires a full MS3 and MS4 year. I would rather spend those 2ish years working towards becoming an officer.

            LTC Ritchie: What is a state OSM? Would I still have to be "released" by my unit Commander to SMP at a different unit? I was in ROTC prior to enlistment (it's the reason i joined the guard) and I have several higher ups at ROTC that know me and would be willing to vouch that I would be a successful Cadet.

            Thanks for so much for everyone's help! I'm currently trying to meet with my ROTC recruiter this week to get him up to date. In the meantime, I'm considering different perspectives and outcomes for my military career.

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            • #7
              Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

              Couple of things OP. If your endstate is to be an officer then choose the route that is going to make you an officer. An enlistment that may/may not happen in 1.5 years is not a great reason to give up a commission.

              Secondly, a ROTC contract will trump the *NG contract. Which means, whether your unit commander likes it or not, he can't deny you to become a cadet. He can decline to have you in his unit, but your ROTC liaison will simply find you a unit elsewhere.

              *You'll have to pay back any bonuses you may have gotten.

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              • #8
                Re: Officer Options and Upcoming Deployment

                All the officers gave sound advice and I would not worry about a deployment that is 15 months away. Anything could happen, like a cancellation. I will continue to pursue ROTC/SMP.

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                • #9
                  Officer Options. Hello everyone. I am new to this so please forgive me if this is posted on the wrong thing. I am currently going through the enlistment process with the ARNG. I am being slotted for Federal OCS as a 09S. However, I want to go active duty. My ARNG recruiter told me today me going Active Duty wouldn't be a problem because EVERYONE graduating from Federal OCS is given the option of going guard/reserve or Active Duty. He also admitted it would give him the recruiting stat if I went through all of this stuff with him. Can anyone tell me how much of what he told me is true? I need to male the right decisions

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by omarte62 View Post
                    Officer Options. Hello everyone. I am new to this so please forgive me if this is posted on the wrong thing. I am currently going through the enlistment process with the ARNG. I am being slotted for Federal OCS as a 09S. However, I want to go active duty. My ARNG recruiter told me today me going Active Duty wouldn't be a problem because EVERYONE graduating from Federal OCS is given the option of going guard/reserve or Active Duty. He also admitted it would give him the recruiting stat if I went through all of this stuff with him. Can anyone tell me how much of what he told me is true? I need to male the right decisions
                    Congrats on getting slotted for Federal OCS. It's hard to get through the Guard, and you are basically guaranteed a branch from the get-go (usually). It's a 12 week program with weekends off, less smokings than ARNG OCS, and a little more laid back if you will. It's still very difficult physically and mentally though.

                    As far as EVERYONE graduating FEDOCS getting an option for Active Duty? No bueno! Throwing the BS flag up right there. ARNG and Army Reserve candidates can go through FEDOCS, but they return to their respective states/units for utilization as officers. There is no, I repeat NO, chance of going AD if you go to FEDOCS as a National Guard candidate. Regardless of which flavor of OCS you go through in the ARNG, be it Traditional, Accelerated, or Federal, you will be a National Guard officer. Period.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by omarte62 View Post
                      Officer Options. Hello everyone. I am new to this so please forgive me if this is posted on the wrong thing. I am currently going through the enlistment process with the ARNG. I am being slotted for Federal OCS as a 09S. However, I want to go active duty. My ARNG recruiter told me today me going Active Duty wouldn't be a problem because EVERYONE graduating from Federal OCS is given the option of going guard/reserve or Active Duty. He also admitted it would give him the recruiting stat if I went through all of this stuff with him. Can anyone tell me how much of what he told me is true? I need to male the right decisions
                      Hilarious.

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