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  • Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

    I am thinking about the guard infantry after spending 4 years active Intelligence (my unit was a company in infantry. all we did was combat stuff) . I had great training, constant room clearing, advanced tactics, WLC and made list, weapon systems, (I mean like AT-4s and Mark 19's like it was our job) and I enjoyed it and kinda want to experience a bit before I finish my college and go for a commission in infantry or field medic (I have EMT also and im going to school for fire fighting right now) So now that you know that here is my question.

    They said I dont have to do basic again, I just have to do the condensed version. I dont feel, to bad about that, as I said before I am very familial with learning tactics, weapon systems, and already have my PT award so not worried about physical demands. But has anyone done this and did they feel like they walked away with "im infantry now" feeling? Or just like "that was a little school?" . And does the guard make you feel infantry? I know its not a lot of training, but do they utilize it well enough? And yes, I know in comparison it nothing compared to the active, but we did a lot... a lot.. of nothing and standing around most the year until it was "oh ****, 9 months till deployment" in the active. So I dont feel bad about a 3 month gear up prior to deployment. I think thats enough for me.

    Can anyone with actual experience kind of shine some light on this, just kind of generally give me some interesting info about the experience and comment on what I have said?

    Please, im not looking for any branch comparisons, I know my options. No "dont do it" or anything like that cause funding, I have looked into that already also. Just want someone with a positive opinion about the military that served, I know what suck is like, I can handle it. **** sucked all the time.

    Oh, and I have spoken with a recruiter. But I want real soldier experience as of now.
    21 minutes ago - 4 days left to answer.
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    Oh, and will I still travel for training even though im doing just the AIT or something.. ?
    17 minutes ago

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    Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

    Originally posted by Naav View Post
    I am thinking about the guard infantry after spending 4 years active Intelligence (my unit was a company in infantry. all we did was combat stuff) . I had great training, constant room clearing, advanced tactics, WLC and made list, weapon systems, (I mean like AT-4s and Mark 19's like it was our job) and I enjoyed it and kinda want to experience a bit before I finish my college and go for a commission in infantry or field medic (I have EMT also and im going to school for fire fighting right now) So now that you know that here is my question.

    They said I dont have to do basic again, I just have to do the condensed version. I dont feel, to bad about that, as I said before I am very familial with learning tactics, weapon systems, and already have my PT award so not worried about physical demands. But has anyone done this and did they feel like they walked away with "im infantry now" feeling? Or just like "that was a little school?" . And does the guard make you feel infantry? I know its not a lot of training, but do they utilize it well enough? And yes, I know in comparison it nothing compared to the active, but we did a lot... a lot.. of nothing and standing around most the year until it was "oh ****, 9 months till deployment" in the active. So I dont feel bad about a 3 month gear up prior to deployment. I think thats enough for me.

    Can anyone with actual experience kind of shine some light on this, just kind of generally give me some interesting info about the experience and comment on what I have said?

    Please, im not looking for any branch comparisons, I know my options. No "dont do it" or anything like that cause funding, I have looked into that already also. Just want someone with a positive opinion about the military that served, I know what suck is like, I can handle it. **** sucked all the time.

    Oh, and I have spoken with a recruiter. But I want real soldier experience as of now.
    21 minutes ago - 4 days left to answer.
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    Oh, and will I still travel for training even though im doing just the AIT or something.. ?
    17 minutes ago
    I have a few opinions on the matter, but firstly I would like to apologize in advance for my poor english skills. I joined the Michigan national guard in 2006, as an Indirect-fire Infantryman, 7 years have gone by and I have recently completed my obligations to the military. bare in mind my opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of others. When i joined, many changes where going on in the guard. I can now reflect on chaotic it really was. I came into a newly consolidated unit of tankers, who had gone to a 2-week re-class school to earn there blue cords, and a handful of mortar guys who proudly reminded everyone of that. The guard seemed to me a like a hodgepodge of ordinary people (like myself) who were there just for a paycheck, and a select few throughout the state working hard to make the guard a respectable place. I remember leaving basic and AIT proud to be a soldier, but after a year or so of pointless weekends of wasting tax paper dollars, i started to dread it, I wouldn't even want to talk to my friends about the lame asses I had to deal with. eventually our unit was alerted for a deployment in late 2007 to Iraq.

    prior to a unit deploying over seas in support of combat operations, there is a 3 month mobilization period in which the readiness of a deploying unit or company is evaluated. first army was trying to prepare a bunch of us out of shape folk for war, and eventually they send you on your way. thank god that our mission over there was uneventful. my specific role was a driver of a HUMV. we provided security for 40 or so semi-trucks full useless crap ( gatorade, t-shirts, who the **** knows) from a base in kuwait, 4 hours into iraq. and back, every other day. for 9 months. and 1 mission on a scenic route to northern iraq and back. millions of miles of recorded driving time throughout the squardron, with zero accidents or contact with the enemy, IED strikes, nothin.notta. zip. pretty uneventful. so im about 3 years into my infantry soldier career and i havnt seen, touched or barley talked about my specific job. MORTARS. no training on what i signed up for, no hope for ever using one in combat, nothing. eventually we all came home from a sham deployment and continued with our civilian jobs.

    after that I was already counting down the days till I hit my ETS. eventually they consolidated us again and gave us mortar tubes and range time with them, not much or often, but it gave me a little motivation to be finally be learning what I had signed up for. late start, but I quickly established myself as a capable soldier for the job, and evaluated as one of the fastest gunners in the state. During this timeframe even more changes were going on with the guard. the unmotivated, poor leadership was eventually weeded out and training and duty was taken more serioulsy, I started to feel like a soldier, but not worthy enough to flaunt my the infantry mindset, and I was still looking forward to finishing my six years with the MIARNG. sometime around 2010 Our unit was schedualed for afghanistan in 2012, my heart was not in it anymore ( cant say it ever was honestly) and i planned to sit out on that tour with the rear-detachment, I even turned down my long awaited promotion to e-5 knowing i was getting out soon. stop-loss was no longer in effect and I had a choice for once : )

    so time went on and i watched a new commander come in and take charge, and the majority of the people i knew and deployed with got out or moved on. i couldnt even respect the guy at the time, he was an infantry officer who couldnt pass his pt test. that was a poor judgment on my part. but as I my time was comming to a close, I noticed huge changes going on with our troop. everyone i deemed as a bad leader was gone, new, experienced leaders were filtering in and began recruiting soldiers for this mission. all the bad was being weeded out. and mortars were deemed important to the commander, it all seemed high speed and I had to get in on it, even though I knew could be a big joke. so I extended for another year. the funds came in, and we finally had our own organic 60mm mortar systems to train with in support of the mission. great.

    2012 comes around and we get to our mob station and the army still doesnt know if there going to deploy us, or where. it was a big cluster **** but eventually title 10 orders were in effect and we were soon on our way to the wild west. It would take me months to sum up all the high speed **** we did there as national guardsman. I never would have expected, based on my prior experiences with national guard deployment. cordon and search villages,key leader engagments, traffic control points, bio-metrics, dismounted patrols, call for fire mission, overwatch, ambushes, air inserted missions, working with special forces, navy seals, austrailian special forces and much much much more all hand in hand with afghan soldiers in order to take there country back. although I may be Naive or ingorant, I personally feel I got to experience stuff some infantry soldiers could only dream about in a 20 year career. I got to utilize my mortar system throughout the year, and I had a purpose. I experienced the heat of battle, the quick chirps of close rounds, being pinned down in a L-shape ambush by taliban fighters before breaking contact, leaving a hot LZ as taliban infiltrated our main fob at night, burning **** and trash on a small COP for months like fish in a barrel, complex attacks, and sleeping under the stars on a hilltop as your brothers pull security. infantry wet-dream if you ask me, except the fact that it becomes deeper when your own are getting blown up and wounded. and those engineers clearing routes for you are paying the ultimate sacrafice in order to make sure our route to the fob from the cop is clear, or a village we havnt been to all season needs a stirring up. I could rant and rave all day about how bad ass my last tour was, but what im really trying to get at is EXPERIENCES VARY. like a lot. my buddy with dragon company in the 101st showed up as we were leaving in a diffrent area, and did nothing the whole time. he could barley believe that nasty girls were capable enough ( that active duty vs. national guard **** runs deep )

    im not sure if it was luck, or briliant leadership that made us a huge success in our little area of kandahar. but we national guardsman went out and found and killed the bad guys, saved lives by taking there HME stockpiles, weapons and ammunition. we out performed our active duty counterparts in every aspect, no if, ands or buts. I got lucky and ended my term as a grunt with a bang, and im proud for that. even though it took 6 years to come by. no regrets.

    this is probably not going to be useful to you, and its a rather late response, but im bored. if i had known more about the military when i first enlisted, I would have used every effort to reach out and find who has the best guard unit in the state, maybe my time would have been different and motivation and drive wouldnt have been slowly sucked away for 6 years. you have your good units, and your bad units. and its always changing. good luck to you with that.

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      Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

      mrem87 - Thank you for that post. I quite enjoyed it and can relate to a number of the "middle parts". I fear the time for a nice combat tour is coming to an end, but alas, maybe again someday.

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          Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

          Just typed up a nice long post and my computer deleted all of it lol. Long story short been NG Infantry for 5 Years, and while IMO it blows **** 2/3 months, the training(when we get to do it) makes you feel more badass then most people can imagine, and makes all the bullshit "WERE THE INFANTRA" crap our NCO's spew all worth it. During AT our unit did the largest air assault mission in missouri history with 8 blackhawks transporting my entire company to a hot LZ. Coolest experience of my non-deployed career. I've been a Joe/Javelin Gunner/team leader/Squad Leader and now RTO and I could not imagine doing anything else.

          Which is kinda funny considering I'm transfering to the Engineers to deploy, BUT IM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT

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            Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

            Originally posted by Ababb21 View Post
            I've been a Joe/Javelin Gunner/team leader/Squad Leader and now RTO and I could not imagine doing anything else.
            Why did you get demoted?

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              Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

              Originally posted by SteveLord View Post
              Why did you get demoted?
              Not just any RTO...the CGs RTO.

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                Re: Thinking about guard infantry after active duty. Need positive insight? Please.

                Originally posted by SteveLord View Post
                Why did you get demoted?
                Haha believe me I was more than happy to relinquish command, you think it's easy being a Specialist acting Squad leader for 6 months? I mean it was an awesome opportunity and I got high marks from my leadership for stepping up, but its tough not being an actual NCO and being a SL. a TL isn't that uncommon for a SPC though. and it sounds funny but I LOVE being RTO, I like being right in the middle of things with the LT and PSG, always in the know. I got an AAM over AT for being the best RTO in the company, whatever that means lol.

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