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    Hello everyone--

    You may recognize me from long, long ago on these forums. Since the last time I posted, I've completed BCT (Fort Leonard Wood) and AIT (Fort Huachuca), to include about six months of drilling with my unit in VA. So far the NG has been a blast, and I want to thank anyone who guided me into the MOS that I chose.

    That said, my current unit has very little upward mobility for my particular MOS. Other individuals in my PLT have started and ended their careers as E-4s.

    There is a good likelihood that I'll be sent to DLI for language training in the coming future, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience regarding that school and promotion boards. Is it possible to get stripes at DLI? I'm not overly ambitious, but the idea of spending an entire enlistment contract as a specialist isn't overly appealing either.

    Thanks in advance-

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    I'll only give this one bump...it is kind of an obscure question I realize.

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    • #3
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      You're promotion will be based on the promotion list and vacancies in VA. It doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not you are at school.

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        If I may ask, what's wrong with being an E4 for an Enlistment Term?

        Is there a reason why you're in such a "rush" to make Sergeant? All it means is you'd have more time to learn more about your job, and/or cross train.

        Is there something I'm missing? Why would that be a bad thing? Even civilian side, that next promotion should be the last concern on your mind. If you're good at your job, and you meet criteria, you'll move up anyway.

        If I may ask, what mos do you have that's so bad you can't stand the lower echelons? If you're AIT was Fort Huachuca, it's safe to say it's MI.

        That said, in WA, average is 4 1/2 years for E5, and that's for the typical Infantryman. Other MOSs are much, much longer...

        With respect, I don't see the issue?

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          Originally posted by FutureEngineer View Post
          With respect, I don't see the issue?
          If you said that with respect, then would you please edit the disrespect out of your last post? I didn't say I was unhappy with my job--I'm simply asking whether there will be opportunities for promotions at DLI.
          Last edited by Hunter; April 5th, 2012, 09:28 PM.

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            Originally posted by FutureEngineer View Post
            If I may ask, what's wrong with being an E4 for an Enlistment Term?

            Is there a reason why you're in such a "rush" to make Sergeant? All it means is you'd have more time to learn more about your job, and/or cross train.

            Is there something I'm missing? Why would that be a bad thing? Even civilian side, that next promotion should be the last concern on your mind. If you're good at your job, and you meet criteria, you'll move up anyway.

            If I may ask, what mos do you have that's so bad you can't stand the lower echelons? If you're AIT was Fort Huachuca, it's safe to say it's MI.

            That said, in WA, average is 4 1/2 years for E5, and that's for the typical Infantryman. Other MOSs are much, much longer...

            With respect, I don't see the issue?
            Take an LT's perspective with a grain of salt...

            but all the Intel MOS that I have seen in my BN have been promoted rather quickly. One of my squad leaders is 24 years old with 6 years in the Guard. He's now an E6. He was originally intel and went to school for the 11B MOS. He's also very squared away.

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              Originally posted by FutureEngineer View Post
              If I may ask, what's wrong with being an E4 for an Enlistment Term?

              Is there a reason why you're in such a "rush" to make Sergeant? All it means is you'd have more time to learn more about your job, and/or cross train.

              Is there something I'm missing? Why would that be a bad thing? Even civilian side, that next promotion should be the last concern on your mind. If you're good at your job, and you meet criteria, you'll move up anyway.

              If I may ask, what mos do you have that's so bad you can't stand the lower echelons? If you're AIT was Fort Huachuca, it's safe to say it's MI.

              That said, in WA, average is 4 1/2 years for E5, and that's for the typical Infantryman. Other MOSs are much, much longer...

              With respect, I don't see the issue?
              Hunter has every right to want to escalate his career. You NEED to look out for yourself in the Guard. I also don't see where he noted issues with his fellow soldiers at all.

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                Originally posted by Polo08816 View Post
                Take an LT's perspective with a grain of salt...

                but all the Intel MOS that I have seen in my BN have been promoted rather quickly. One of my squad leaders is 24 years old with 6 years in the Guard. He's now an E6. He was originally intel and went to school for the 11B MOS. He's also very squared away.
                lol...doesn't that just prove the point that there isn't much advancement in intel since the guy had to switch to 11B to get promoted?

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                  Originally posted by RSP NCO View Post
                  lol...doesn't that just prove the point that there isn't much advancement in intel since the guy had to switch to 11B to get promoted?
                  Oh no. He made it up to E-6 in his slot. It was an E-7 slot. But he wanted more 11B experience.

                  Regardless, 6 years (completely in the Guard) for E-6 at 24 years of age is considered "moving". If I were him, I would transition right back to that intel MOS when he meets the TIG requirements for E-7.

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                    I see, and Hunter, just the way it sounded was as though you weren't happy with your current position.

                    A lot of people I speak with, most of the time when they are concerned about promotions vs their occupation, has usually lead to several different reasons:
                    1. Soldier is tired of being "The low guy on the pole" and wants to be the "boss".
                    2. Soldier doesn't like what's going on, and wants to get into position to change the enviroment or influence it.
                    3. Soldier just wants "cooler stripes" on his jacket (I know of two Soldiers that fit this bill, more concerned about medals and badges vs doing anything, Soldiers in their Platoons even announce it regarding them).
                    4. Soldier wants more responsibility/more things to do related to their MOS.

                    Those are largely the main categories I always find Soldiers fall in who are most concerned for promotion. Because Drill Pay is so low, aside from Taxes it shouldn't be the reason you want promotion, because it barely pays for gas. ( At minimum wage in one weekend, you make 3X the money vs being on Drill Pay for a weekend)

                    That said, E6 in 6 years is amazing! O.O TBH, youngest E6 I've met so far was a Recruiter at age 28, with over 10 years in the Guard... (63B, now 91B, but now serving as 79T) (This excludes AD. AD side at Ft. Lewis I know two 11Bs who've made E6 in 2 1/2 years, both are turning 20 and 21 soon, their unit promotes incredibly fast..)

                    Is that just New Jersey? Or are other East Coast Guards fast in promotions?
                    Last edited by FutureEngineer; April 6th, 2012, 02:32 PM.

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                      Originally posted by FutureEngineer View Post
                      I see, and Hunter, just the way it sounded was as though you weren't happy with your current position.

                      A lot of people I speak with, most of the time when they are concerned about promotions vs their occupation, has usually lead to several different reasons:
                      1. Soldier is tired of being "The low guy on the pole" and wants to be the "boss".
                      2. Soldier doesn't like what's going on, and wants to get into position to change the enviroment or influence it.
                      3. Soldier just wants "cooler stripes" on his jacket (I know of two Soldiers that fit this bill, more concerned about medals and badges vs doing anything, Soldiers in their Platoons even announce it regarding them).
                      4. Soldier wants more responsibility/more things to do related to their MOS.

                      Those are largely the main categories I always find Soldiers fall in who are most concerned for promotion. Because Drill Pay is so low, aside from Taxes it shouldn't be the reason you want promotion, because it barely pays for gas. ( At minimum wage in one weekend, you make 3X the money vs being on Drill Pay for a weekend)

                      That said, E6 in 6 years is amazing! O.O TBH, youngest E6 I've met so far was a Recruiter at age 28, with over 10 years in the Guard... (63B, now 91B, but now serving as 79T) (This excludes AD. AD side at Ft. Lewis I know two 11Bs who've made E6 in 2 1/2 years, both are turning 20 and 21 soon, their unit promotes incredibly fast..)

                      Is that just New Jersey? Or are other East Coast Guards fast in promotions?
                      Just a few things to say:
                      1. You're the only person who interpreted my original post in a negative way.
                      2. Your four points cast a poor light on career oriented soldiers.
                      3. Your four points continue to insinuate that my motives are unscrupulous.
                      4. Your numbers regarding minimum wage versus drill weekend are wrong. Drill pay isn't great, but you're exaggerating the difference.
                      To recapitulate, you've **** on my motives and derailed this thread based on your own subjective opinions, not facts. From what I understand, you're not in the Army...? Mods, I'm done with this thread.

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                        Originally posted by Hunter View Post
                        From what I understand, you're not in the Army...? Mods, I'm done with this thread.
                        You are correct in this statement. This poster in NOT in the military, nor has ever served. So you can take his replies with a huge grain of salt.

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