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    I want to join the National Guard with hopes of becoming a crew chief on a UH-60. I know this question has been asked on here before but the answers have never been clear. Is there a rank you have to be to become a crew chief? How long does it normally take? Could i become a crew chief in 4 years of service? If anyone who has had personal experience as a National Guard crew chief can answer this is would be much appreciated. Feel free to add anything else you think i should know on the subject. I am joining in Arizona if that changes anythings. Thanks much!

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    Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

    I'm in a similar situation. I want to eventually become crew chief on the CH-47's. I don't believe there is a specific rank you have to be. When you get to your unit, express your goals to the CoC. Then bust your tail and be a good soldier. Once you prove yourself, you should hopefully be able to achieve your goal when a slot opens up.

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    • #3
      Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

      What you are referring to, OP, is 15T, UH-60 Repairer. Here's a description: 15T. With this MOS, you could becoming a crew chief. You would fly with the pilot, but not the actual helicopter as Warrant Officers are traditionally the pilots in the National Guard. It is an enlisted MOS, so no extra time of service is required. You would just attend BCT and the corresponding AIT. I'm not in aviation, so I'm not sure if being a crew chief requires seniority or if it's something everyone with this MOS is automatically trained for. I would recommend getting clarification from your recruiter if no one pipes in on here.

      Hope this helps!

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        a crew chief means that you have that MOS and are in charge of the aircraft. Usually that happens when you attain the rank of SGT/E05. It can happen earlier. Really every 15R, 15T, 15V and the like are all crew chiefs when they finish AIT. you just have to work your way up in rank and knowlege before you can be placed in charge of the aircrafts maintenance. Good luck and it is a great MOS choice if it is available and you qualify. I am a 15G20 which is aircraft structural repairer with the rank of SGT/E05 and been in aviation for 12 years.

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          Originally posted by SGTNelson1232 View Post
          a crew chief means that you have that MOS and are in charge of the aircraft. Usually that happens when you attain the rank of SGT/E05. It can happen earlier. Really every 15R, 15T, 15V and the like are all crew chiefs when they finish AIT. you just have to work your way up in rank and knowlege before you can be placed in charge of the aircrafts maintenance. Good luck and it is a great MOS choice if it is available and you qualify. I am a 15G20 which is aircraft structural repairer with the rank of SGT/E05 and been in aviation for 12 years.
          That's what I suspected. Thanks for adding your own perspective!

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            Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

            Originally posted by SGTNelson1232 View Post
            a crew chief means that you have that MOS and are in charge of the aircraft. Usually that happens when you attain the rank of SGT/E05. It can happen earlier. Really every 15R, 15T, 15V and the like are all crew chiefs when they finish AIT. you just have to work your way up in rank and knowlege before you can be placed in charge of the aircrafts maintenance. Good luck and it is a great MOS choice if it is available and you qualify. I am a 15G20 which is aircraft structural repairer with the rank of SGT/E05 and been in aviation for 12 years.
            Thanks! That clarifys a lot for me. Now the ultimate question, with hardwork, could I achieve becoming an E-5 and/or become a crew chief in 4 years?

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by short18 View Post
              Thanks! That clarifys a lot for me. Now the ultimate question, with hardwork, could I achieve becoming an E-5 and/or become a crew chief in 4 years?
              Yes, if there's an NCO slot in your unit. To give you an idea, E1-E4 are what are considered "automatic" based on your Time in Service (TIS) and Time in Grade (TIG). As of right now, an applicant coming in as an E1 can anticipate getting Specialist in approximately 2 years. So, that would ideally give you 2 years to work on your E5 enlistment packet, which includes going to WLC. Getting that school out of the way early will make you stand out when it comes to the boards.

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              • #8
                Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

                I've looked on a lot of forums on crew chiefs lately, and I've seen that in the marines you can get crew chief in your contract. Is that possible for national guard?

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                • #9
                  Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

                  Originally posted by short18 View Post
                  I've looked on a lot of forums on crew chiefs lately, and I've seen that in the marines you can get crew chief in your contract. Is that possible for national guard?
                  In the Marines Crew Chief's and mechanics are separate MOS's, from what I have read above this is not the case in the ARNG.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

                    just because you are a 15T, U or whatever,does not mean you are a crew chief. It means you are a mechanic,or as the army calls us, "repairers". As such, you will probably get signed to maintenance company. The maintenance company owns no aircraft. So you will not be assigned to one. The flight company has the aircraft, pilots and crew chiefs, but no maintenance personnel. Theoretically this was done so that any flight company could marry up to a maintenance company any where in the world.

                    Being a crew chief means you are assigned an aircraft, keep in mind that aircraft may change daily, but you are assigned on nonetheless. It is your responsibility to daily the aircraft and get it ready for the mission. You spend less time working on the aircraft and more time doing everything else that goes into making the mission happen.

                    That being said, there is nothing wrong with being assigned to the maintenance section. Typically, overtime, mechanics that know their stuff and show initiative maybe eventually move over to the flight company.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 15T Crew Chief Questions

                      Originally posted by juandigital View Post
                      just because you are a 15T, U or whatever,does not mean you are a crew chief. It means you are a mechanic,or as the army calls us, "repairers". As such, you will probably get signed to maintenance company. The maintenance company owns no aircraft. So you will not be assigned to one. The flight company has the aircraft, pilots and crew chiefs, but no maintenance personnel. Theoretically this was done so that any flight company could marry up to a maintenance company any where in the world.

                      Being a crew chief means you are assigned an aircraft, keep in mind that aircraft may change daily, but you are assigned on nonetheless. It is your responsibility to daily the aircraft and get it ready for the mission. You spend less time working on the aircraft and more time doing everything else that goes into making the mission happen.

                      That being said, there is nothing wrong with being assigned to the maintenance section. Typically, overtime, mechanics that know their stuff and show initiative maybe eventually move over to the flight company.
                      Great break down! I'm interested in knowing as well, in your experience how long would it typically take to have the opportunity to move from the maintenance section to a flight company? I think this might be part of what the OP is asking.

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                      • #12
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                        When I enlisted as a 15T I got put into a Crew Chief spot with my unit. My recruiter talked the guy at MEPS into putting me there since I got a 99 on my ASVAB (135 at least in each sub category) and was about to graduate college. (I've just graduated last week!) Do you think I'll get to be an acting chief right after AIT or will I be the FNG for 6 months and shadow a current Crew Chief and then get to be an acting Crew Chief?

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