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    I am a former AF MSGT and have served this great country almost 20 yrs now. I was sent to OCS and was doing very well but got injured and was sent home. Now, I am too old for the next class and was moved to the RSP unit. I now have to attend BCT and AIT (which is fine) One thing the Army has taught me is to never quit or give up on yourself, a warrior mentality. Since I am too old for OCS I will strive for a Warrant commission. BUT it seems you must have many yrs (which I don't have, I'm almost 42) of experience and they prefer Army lifers, combat vets and tab holders.
    I've wanted to be an officer since I was a young boy, but life had other ideas and an opportunity wasn't presented in the years that followed. So I thought it would be good for me to work my way through the ranks and get some enlisted experience under my belt. I've enjoyed my many years as an enlisted serviceman but now father time is knocking on my door and my life long goal is slipping through my fingers.
    To make matters worse I gave up two stripes and an E8 promotion to enlist in the Army and attend OCS. I'm going to basic at a 41 and AIT in a slot I had zero input in choosing (88M).
    Do I have any hope of a Warrant slot with only a few years left (before I am too old for a Warrent slot) and many years in a different branch?
    I can suck all this up if there is a decent chance that the Army can use me as a Warrant. Thanks for in advance for your advice and guidance

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    Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

    Originally posted by SCC1970 View Post
    I am a former AF MSGT and have served this great country almost 20 yrs now. I was sent to OCS and was doing very well but got injured and was sent home. Now, I am too old for the next class and was moved to the RSP unit. I now have to attend BCT and AIT (which is fine) One thing the Army has taught me is to never quit or give up on yourself, a warrior mentality. Since I am too old for OCS I will strive for a Warrant commission. BUT it seems you must have many yrs (which I don't have, I'm almost 42) of experience and they prefer Army lifers, combat vets and tab holders.
    I've wanted to be an officer since I was a young boy, but life had other ideas and an opportunity wasn't presented in the years that followed. So I thought it would be good for me to work my way through the ranks and get some enlisted experience under my belt. I've enjoyed my many years as an enlisted serviceman but now father time is knocking on my door and my life long goal is slipping through my fingers.
    To make matters worse I gave up two stripes and an E8 promotion to enlist in the Army and attend OCS. I'm going to basic at a 41 and AIT in a slot I had zero input in choosing (88M).
    Do I have any hope of a Warrant slot with only a few years left (before I am too old for a Warrent slot) and many years in a different branch?
    I can suck all this up if there is a decent chance that the Army can use me as a Warrant. Thanks for in advance for your advice and guidance
    I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but having a tab is, to my knowledge, almost totally irrelevant when applying for a WO appointment. The only exception to that is for 180A, which is only open to 18-series (Special Forces) NCOs anyway. To be honest, I don't think I've ever even seen a WO with any sort of tab, aside from 180As.

    What exactly do you want to do as a warrant officer? Typically, they are technical specialists in a specific field. As a result, you need to have a "feeder" MOS, which are shown here. 88M is not among them, unfortunately.

    There are a couple of IT-related WO MOSes which don't require a feeder MOS, which are probably your only chance at this point.

    Why are they sending you to basic training now? You have to have already attended BCT in order to attend OCS, which you said you did. Normally, soldiers who do not make it through OCS just go to AIT.

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    • #3
      Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

      Originally posted by SCC1970 View Post
      I am a former AF MSGT and have served this great country almost 20 yrs now. I was sent to OCS and was doing very well but got injured and was sent home. Now, I am too old for the next class and was moved to the RSP unit. I now have to attend BCT and AIT (which is fine) One thing the Army has taught me is to never quit or give up on yourself, a warrior mentality. Since I am too old for OCS I will strive for a Warrant commission. BUT it seems you must have many yrs (which I don't have, I'm almost 42) of experience and they prefer Army lifers, combat vets and tab holders.
      I've wanted to be an officer since I was a young boy, but life had other ideas and an opportunity wasn't presented in the years that followed. So I thought it would be good for me to work my way through the ranks and get some enlisted experience under my belt. I've enjoyed my many years as an enlisted serviceman but now father time is knocking on my door and my life long goal is slipping through my fingers.
      To make matters worse I gave up two stripes and an E8 promotion to enlist in the Army and attend OCS. I'm going to basic at a 41 and AIT in a slot I had zero input in choosing (88M).
      Do I have any hope of a Warrant slot with only a few years left (before I am too old for a Warrent slot) and many years in a different branch?
      I can suck all this up if there is a decent chance that the Army can use me as a Warrant. Thanks for in advance for your advice and guidance
      Almost all the Warrant Officer positions require specific enlisted experience in a technical field. What exactly is your enlisted and educational background?

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      • #4
        Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

        Originally posted by jwarren View Post
        I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but having a tab is, to my knowledge, almost totally irrelevant when applying for a WO appointment. The only exception to that is for 180A, which is only open to 18-series (Special Forces) NCOs anyway. To be honest, I don't think I've ever even seen a WO with any sort of tab, aside from 180As.

        What exactly do you want to do as a warrant officer? Typically, they are technical specialists in a specific field. As a result, you need to have a "feeder" MOS, which are shown here. 88M is not among them, unfortunately.

        There are a couple of IT-related WO MOSes which don't require a feeder MOS, which are probably your only chance at this point.

        Why are they sending you to basic training now? You have to have already attended BCT in order to attend OCS, which you said you did. Normally, soldiers who do not make it through OCS just go to AIT.
        I may be wrong but I heard of a policy change with regard to the enlistment of non-Army prior service individuals recently. It pertains to whether they have to attend BCT or not. I believe certain MOS from the AF and Navy did not have to attend BCT.

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        • #5
          Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

          Sir,
          I looked at the two IT jobs and they require at least 4 yrs in the field. I also looked at Mobility officer 882A (which they show open to any MOS)
          •At least two years of documented practical experience in deployment and / or unit movement operations, regardless of MOS or service. (Not sure how every MOS can meet this requirement)
          Coming from the AF and not completing OCS requires me to go to BCT (I was told) My 24 mos not MOSQ'd is quickly approaching so I may be discharged at 19 yrs in.

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          • #6
            Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

            Enlisted dental superintendent of a clinic. I had to change my major several times due to my civilian employment but I have 127 sem hrs at the university.

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            • #7
              Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

              Sir,
              I was told due to stiff competition for limited slots they often look at the whole person concept. Education, experience, leadership, Army core values, combat experience in the feeder MOS and icing on the cake a tab or something along those lines. I am sure it may vary from state to state and year to year.

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              • #8
                Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                I am an active duty warrant that became one at 42 years of age.

                Many warrants I have come across are tab holders (Ranger, Sapper). Attached is a pic of my class at WOCS with my Senior TAC. JWarren, you have seen your first tabbed Warrant and then some lol. I am not that high speed. I just have a CAB and Air Assault badge. But I was a former Marine so I did a lot of hooah training back in the day lol.

                I went to OCS over a decade ago and resigned. If you need advice; feel free to PM me or we can engage on here. I am Signal and with the recent active duty selections that came out two days ago; nobody was selected for Signal. There are going to be cuts in our ranks so that might be an issue as well.

                But to apply as a Warrant in the NG is a different animal and you have to fulfill their criteria. The age limit is 46 but we had NG candidates that had their age limit waivers approved. One was in my class that was an former E-8 and went to Airborne school in the 70s. Its possible.

                Being a Chief Warrant Officer; It is the greatest thing since slice bread.

                Last edited by Chief Kemosabe; July 27th, 2012, 11:38 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                  Originally posted by fmcityslicker View Post
                  JWarren, you have seen your first tabbed Warrant and then some lol.
                  Nice! But, dude...what's with those uniforms?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                    Originally posted by jwarren View Post
                    Nice! But, dude...what's with those uniforms?
                    Classes are Identified by a colored T-shirt. I went through Warrant School. A lot of it compares to boy scouts. It is an NCOES school on steroids.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                      Originally posted by jwarren View Post
                      Nice! But, dude...what's with those uniforms?
                      The colors of your class. I was Gold. You can always see the class videos on youtube. Here is one that is entertaining.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5UKl3YX9w

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                      • #12
                        Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                        Originally posted by SCC1970 View Post
                        Enlisted dental superintendent of a clinic. I had to change my major several times due to my civilian employment but I have 127 sem hrs at the university.
                        It seems that you will be lacking the technical experience needed to be a Warrant. When you are applying to be a Warrant, you are basically saying you are an expert in your field. This is unlike regular officers which is why there are different requirements. Experience in a feeder MOS is 75 percent of the battle.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                          Originally posted by ParalegalNCO1 View Post
                          It seems that you will be lacking the technical experience needed to be a Warrant. When you are applying to be a Warrant, you are basically saying you are an expert in your field. This is unlike regular officers which is why there are different requirements. Experience in a feeder MOS is 75 percent of the battle.
                          +1. You have to establish yourself with several years of solid NCO experience. Now and days, I will say about at least five good years. I have federal law enforcement experience as well as MP but there will be no way that I will be selected as an CID Warrant. The track is very rigid.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                            Originally posted by fmcityslicker View Post
                            +1. You have to establish yourself with several years of solid NCO experience. Now and days, I will say about at least five good years. I have federal law enforcement experience as well as MP but there will be no way that I will be selected as an CID Warrant. The track is very rigid.
                            I have seen USACIDC make a few exceptions for current or prior GS-1811 series Federal Agents with significant cirminal investigative experience. I have known two personally. They are incredibly strict on the experience requirement, as they should be.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Warrant Officer info and help.

                              I guess SSG all I can do is get an MOS I can sink my teeth into and kick butt at it. I'll start my first day as an E5 on the job, so I'll have nothing but NCOERs for those time periods. Then I will just absorb myself into learning that MOS, do it for several years, then apply, I'm a quick study.

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