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    Hello,

    If I was discharged honorable without a MOSQ, am I still considered prior service?

    Am I eligible for the rep 63 program?

    I'm 33 in SoCal, and am interested in enlisting in a SF Guard unit out of state.

    I went through basic on 2005, then to AIT. My MOS was discontinued and I waited for another job for 3 months and never got a class date. I was shipped back home with an honorable discharge. I was promoted twice during that time for being a PG at both bases. I left as an E-3. Most recruiters have no idea how to handle this since its outside the norm.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

    I apologize if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it.
    Last edited by the man; August 29th, 2013, 02:53 PM.

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    Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

    The simple answer should be if you have a DD-214, then you are considered PS. When you outprocessed did they give you an records to bring home?

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    • #3
      Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

      Moving post to Special Forces category

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      • #4
        Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

        Originally posted by the man View Post
        Hello,

        If I was discharged honorable without a MOSQ, am I still considered prior service?

        Am I eligible for the rep 63 program?

        I'm 33 in SoCal, and am interested in enlisting in a SF Guard unit out of state.

        I went through basic on 2005, then to AIT. My MOS was discontinued and I waited for another job for 3 months and never got a class date. I was shipped back home with an honorable discharge. I was promoted twice during that time for being a PG at both bases. I left as an E-3. Most recruiters have no idea how to handle this since its outside the norm.

        Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

        I apologize if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it.
        To answer your questions. Yes you are considered prior service. No, you are not eligible for REP 63.

        You cannot "enlist" for Special Forces as prior service. Please refer to the "How to apply for Special Forces as current or prior military service member" thread: http://www.nationalguard.com/forums/...service-member

        The NG SF unit (A/5/19th SFG) in CA requires "at least" two years of MOSQ experience/service. Also, must be at least SPC/E-4.

        The only way you could possibly enlist "into" a Special Forces unit, is if you were to choose a support MOS available at the Battalion or Group Support level (UT or CO). Then at least you would be guaranteed to attend Airborne School.
        Last edited by SF Hunter; August 29th, 2013, 03:12 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

          Originally posted by the man View Post
          Hello,

          If I was discharged honorable without a MOSQ, am I still considered prior service?

          Am I eligible for the rep 63 program?

          I'm 33 in SoCal, and am interested in enlisting in a SF Guard unit out of state.

          I went through basic on 2005, then to AIT. My MOS was discontinued and I waited for another job for 3 months and never got a class date. I was shipped back home with an honorable discharge. I was promoted twice during that time for being a PG at both bases. I left as an E-3. Most recruiters have no idea how to handle this since its outside the norm.

          Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

          I apologize if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it.
          I am curious as to what this MOS that was discontinued in 2005.

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          • #6
            Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

            Zero 259: I do not have a DD-214 since I wasn't in long enough. That was the reason I couldn't reenlist. I wrote the vet board twice and visited a local congressman, it's nowhere to be found. All I have is a discharge paper from the reserve unit.

            SF Hunter: What would be the best plan of attack for the 18 series in the shortest time? At the support level, are there combat MOS positions? What kind of time frame is involved to eventually get a packet for SFAS?

            Thanks for all the info.

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            • #7
              Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

              Originally posted by the man View Post
              Zero 259:SF Hunter: What would be the best plan of attack for the 18 series in the shortest time? At the support level, are there combat MOS positions? What kind of time frame is involved to eventually get a packet for SFAS?

              Thanks for all the info.
              There are no combat arms MOSs in support, hence the term support. Did you read thru the link I provided and the requirements? That will give you an idea of the time frame required. The minimum is at least one year after MOSQ, what ever that MOS may end up being.
              Last edited by SF Hunter; August 29th, 2013, 04:41 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

                Here are some of the support MOSs that SF Bn Support Companies (BSC) and Group Support Bn (GSB) are looking for:

                Engineering (12 Series):
                Construction, Plumber, Power Production, Interior Electrician, Carpentry and Masonry

                Aviation (15 Series):
                Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Operator

                Signal (25 Series):
                IT Specialist, Radio Operator and Maintainer

                Judge Advocate (27 Series):
                JAG and Paralegal

                Electronic Warfare (29 Series):
                Electronic Warfare Specialist

                Military Intelligence (35 Series):
                Intelligence

                Adjutant General (42 Series):
                Human Resources Specialist (clerk)

                Medical (68 Series):
                Biomedical, Patient Admin, Med Logistics, Animal Care, Combat Medic

                Chemical (74 Series):
                Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Warfare and Chemical Recon Detachment

                Transportation (88 Series):
                Motor transport Operator, Transportation Manager

                Ammunition (89 Series):
                Ammunitions Stock Control and Accounting, Ammunition Specialist

                Mechanical Maintenance (91 Series):
                Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic, Utility Equip Repairer, Generator, Repairer, Allied Trades, Small Arms/ Artillery Repairer

                Quartermaster (92 Series):
                Automated Logistics, Petroleum Supply, Food Service, Petroleum Lab, Parachute Rigger, Water Treatment, Supply

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                • #9
                  Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

                  You get a DD form 2 something (not 214) when you complete basic but not AIT. I have to check my "I love me" book when I get home. Yes, the Reserves provide a Honorable discharge certificate but you get another separation document as well.

                  edit: I found it!! DD form 220

                  http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/i...rms/dd0220.pdf

                  http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r635_5.pdf
                  Last edited by Chief Kemosabe; August 29th, 2013, 04:41 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

                    Not sure if that reply went through.
                    Cheif Kemosabe: 97B counter intel Req: E-5 or higher in 2005. I told my recruiter this before I shipped but he said I was good to go. First time I've heard of that form. (DD- 220)You know you're stuff!

                    SF Hunter: Thanks for the info. I read the 1 year requirement part. I'm "assuming" one year isn't guaranteed and is up to the unit?

                    Are there still LRRS units near CA?
                    Last edited by the man; August 29th, 2013, 04:52 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

                      Originally posted by the man
                      Are there still LRRS near CA?
                      No. There are no Long Range Surveillance (LRS) units in CA ARNG.

                      The closest LRS units are in Alaska, Nebraska or Texas. But, those types of units are not available for direct enlistment either, unless again in a support type MOS. They are all volunteer units and usually have their own evaluation/try-out programs.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Prior Army Res, No MOSQ

                        That job was given another code. Its 35L now.

                        http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/97b.htm
                        Last edited by Chief Kemosabe; August 29th, 2013, 05:02 PM.

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