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  • Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

    I just graduated BCT from Ft. Sill and can try to answer any questions you may have.

    -SPC West

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    Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

    I go to Ft. Sill for BCT and AIT how was your experience in general?

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      Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

      Originally posted by bduvall View Post
      I go to Ft. Sill for BCT and AIT how was your experience in general?
      It was good. Not as bad as people made it sound. I was in E-1/40th and we had it a little worse than most. We stayed in Red phase a bit longer than normal and didn't get our cell phones when the other batteries did. In talking with guys from other batteries at church, it sounds like we got shafted more-so than usual. But really, nothing too horrible.

      PT wasn't bad after about the first week, you get used to it fast. You also will develop thick skin quickly to the yelling, which isn't all that much so long as you do what they tell you. The ruck marches were a bit intense. But like everything else, you get used to it and get to the point where it's pretty much cake.

      I made some good friends and had fun on most days. You have to just get in the right mind set and never give up. It was way hot some days on the range. I believe one day was 104 and in full battle gear, sitting in the sun for hours, you get a little warm. But everyone is suffering with you and you'll get through it quick.

      I have a wife and kid so I'd say I wouldn't want to go again, per se. However, if I didn't have the family back at home, it wouldn't have been bad at all.

      What's your MOS?

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        Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

        Its seems like we are in the same situation. I am going for 13F, what was your MOS? I am a 28 year old Teacher/Coach recently married so I will be missing home as well. On the positive side I am already 28 so I already have a pretty good mindset going into the whole situation that this will only make me better. If you got anything else to add it would be great, I always like to know as much as I can about any topic before I experience.

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          Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

          My MOS is 09S. So I got to come home right after BCT but I can get answers about AIT or hook you up with some battles that are still there in AIT.

          I'm 28 as well so I felt like I'd be "the old guy" but there were actually quite a few people older than me there. Our platoon had a guy that was 40. He was a stud. We called him "Papa Smurf."

          Just know they are trying to teach discipline and seeing if you'll quit. They have a schedule and towards the middle of BCT you could almost tell when it was time for "Free PT" aka a "smoke session." Are you in decent shape? They stress the PT pretty good but the standards are fairly low. We didn't run much. Once, maybe twice a week is all. Lots of push ups and ab workouts.

          When are you headed there? I just got done end of June, so I got out as the heat was getting up there. Reception was 10 days for me and was mind-numbing boring. But we had our phones every night. Once we hit BCT, I noticed that the bays were acutally quite a bit nicer with individual showers and everything. Towards the end of reception, make sure you tell your wife you'll have minimal contact for a few weeks. Probably a 5 minute phone call a few days in then nothing but snail mail till white phase.

          I think the hardest part was dealing with the people who acted like they were too good to participate or didn't even want to be there. Motivating your battles to help clean, for example, isn't very fun. So long as you know the DS's do what they do for a reason and don't take anything personal, you'll be just fine.

          Do you have any specific questions? Feel free to message me or post here. Whatever you'd prefer.

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            Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

            It so funny because as I am reading your post it sounds allmost idetical to me. I allmost went 09S, but ended up not because I was afraid after I became a officer I would be stuck behind a desk so I just went the enlisted route. I figured I set behind my desk enough at my civilian career. The only thing that worries me about BCT is like you said above, having to deal with younger people that are lazy/unmotivated and dont want to do anything. At my age I am very goal driven and do everything 100%. I didn't sign up for this just to have something to do, I did it because it is one of my goals. So hopefully I wont get annoyed with the younger group to much. PT won't be a problem for me. I'm 6"4 205 and in better shape now then I was when I was 18. I don't ship out till May since I am a teacher I can go over the summer and now miss to much work. I am glad that I found someone that just got back that can give me some insight on how it will be. If I can think of anymore questions I will PM you. I can't wait to ship out I am pumped. Its been many years planning for me to do this and now it is finally happening. I couldn't be happier.

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            • #7
              Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

              Originally posted by BensZ28 View Post
              I just graduated BCT from Ft. Sill and can try to answer any questions you may have.

              -SPC West
              What was the scheduling like for Family Day/Graduation? How far in advance did you know, and was it ample time (or even access to your cell phone) to let your family know so they could plan to attend?

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                Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                Your family will likely know before you. The battery commands mailed a letter home before hand about times, places etc. then we got a phone call...like a few days prior, and then tonight before to finalize and talk to our family.

                I was a twenty something 09S at Sill too... Enjoyed it

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                  Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                  Originally posted by BensZ28 View Post
                  I just graduated BCT from Ft. Sill and can try to answer any questions you may have.

                  -SPC West
                  Did you have any prior service people with you at ft. sill in BCT? If so how were they treated, by both the other recruits and the DS? Did they have separate sleeping arrangements or were they right there as well? What kind of duties were they assigned, if any?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                    I was last stationed at Sill in 99, my last few months as a temp Training NCO for 1/79. There were several of us prior-service that went through BCT/AIT, some coming from other branches of service like the Navy and Air Force, or guys that were coming back in after a few years of time out. We also had two guys come through the AIT phase while I was assigned to that unit after graduation, but their situation was due to reclass.

                    During BCT, those of us that were prior-service were in some ways actually treated poorly. Some of the cadre I guess wanted to make us feel like we weren't "special" or better than the others, even though none of us acted that way. We did our best to help out everyone else in our platoons, but I'd say the experience made things more difficult for us at times. In the end, you're just another gimp recruit. You are treated the same as a no-experience kid fresh out of high school. Same sleeping arrangements, same duties, you get smoked like everyone else, etc.

                    For the guys coming through to reclass to 13B, their treatment was different. Once was an E-5 and the other an E-3, and both were mainly kept "separate" from the rest of the class. They slept in the same quarters I slept in upstairs of the Battalion, small 2-man rooms much like a dorm. The rest of the OSUT recruits obviously were in their own barracks. The reclass guys were basically treated "like buddies" by the cadre, often times only around the rest of the recruits when doing training on the guns. They didn't hang out much with the rest of the class during other common training, and I can't recall ever seeing them getting smoked with the rest of their assigned platoons.

                    Honestly, I saw no problem with the reclass soldiers though. They were just there to learn a new MOS, not go through BCT all over again. If it was an AIT-only cycle, I'm sure they would have been the same as the other recruits. But since our unit was mainly an OSUT-only, that just wasn't the case.

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                      Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                      Ben,

                      I am also a O9S and going to Fort Sill this June on the 4th. Can you tell me about how the 09S doing at Fort Sill? Is there anything different than the other privates (not special treatment but extra responsibility)?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                        Originally posted by npthaiduong View Post
                        Ben,

                        I am also a O9S and going to Fort Sill this June on the 4th. Can you tell me about how the 09S doing at Fort Sill? Is there anything different than the other privates (not special treatment but extra responsibility)?
                        Regardless of location (except maybe Benning), you aren't going to be treated any different as a 09S. The DSs probably won't care one lick. This of course will differ by the cadre you have.

                        The other thing that will be a determining factor is your performance, and if you have ANY institutional knowledge whatsoever. In my case my DSs knew I was going that route, so they did0 expect me to be the guy behind the scenes squaring our PLT away. I also became the guy responsible for making sure everyone filled out paperwork correctly, i.e. supply, inventory, etc. They did not however let me have a leadership position be it PG or SL, they liked pulling up weak people to do that in order to teach them and help them progress. I was back-up for practically everyone though in the event they were gone on detail, sick-call, etc.

                        Again experiences are going to vary but don't really expect anything different than the above. Keep your nose clean, try and square your PLT away (you're typically dealing with a bunch of Soldiers much younger than you, like hearding cats at some points), and you'll be fine.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                          Very similar experience to the OC.

                          At Jackson, the 09S recruits were treated like the go-between for daily duties with the DS and the platoon. While not specifically in a leadership role at all times (PG, SL, etc) we were the bay-bosses, the detail supervisors, the TMC babysitters/escorts and the like. We were expected to take jacked up recruits and help mentor/coach them during bay hours or the like.

                          If an 09S was a soup sammitch, Lord help them....

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                            Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                            Thank you eqm and TxIntel for your input. I appreciate. I am 27, with a two master degrees, and I love everyday in the Army. I have attended 4 drills with my local RSP, and I am pretty much prepared for BCT, mentally and physically (thanks to the amazing cadres in Minnesota).

                            However, somehow, the 17-18 youngsters still annoy me at the RSP for their "naive" actions. For example, a private attempted to grab my E-4 rank on the ACU because I didn't have the E-4 rank on my patrol cap (my recruiters said they don't have any available for me atm). He reasoned that my uniform is incomplete and I couldn't wear my rank. I just smiled at him, but he got smoked really bad by the cadres.

                            Hopefully, I will meet some dedicated and mature privates at BCT.

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                              Re: Questions about BCT or AIT at Ft. Sill?

                              Ha! That's funny.... ballsy, stupid and unprofessional, but funny!

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