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    Hello all,

    I swore in and enlisted November 27th with the Rhode Island National Guard, I choose 31B as my MOS.

    However, I am not going to AIT this summer; it would cut into the first semester of my sophomore year of college.

    I am not positive if I will even attend AIT; there is a chance I might contract with ROTC instead but I am weighing out my options. I wish I could contract with ROTC and still attend basic.


    Anyways...

    If I recall correctly, I am leaving for Ft. Leonard Wood June 10th 2013... I am not positive of the date of graduation/when I leave, but it should be around the 17th of August or so.


    I have a couple questions....


    1. If I go to basic as a E2 or E3 because of ROTC credits & college credits, how will being somewhat of a higher rank affect my time at basic?

    2. I have relatives in MO that I visit every summer. Could I fly to their local airport directly after I graduate basic instead of flying home to MA?


    I am very nervous, excited, and determined to do well at basic and to perform to my highest abilities.

    Thanks for reading and hope to find some people with similar ship out dates!

    Hooah!

    -Kyle

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    Re: Off to FLW 20130610

    Being an E2 or E3 will affect you in no way whatsoever besides you getting paid more. You will have a lot of E2's and E3's training with you. DS's won't treat you any different, your fellow privates won't treat you any differently. The only people they treat ANY different are E4's, and all they do is give them a leadership position first, but will usually still address them as private. As for your flying question, if you pick POV travel for after graduation, you do whatever you want. If you pick GOV, I believe your ticket is only for home. So it just depends on what you pick.

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      Re: Off to FLW 20130610

      Originally posted by Sig View Post
      The only people they treat ANY different are E4's, and all they do is give them a leadership position first, but will usually still address them as private.
      Hey, I am wondering what you mean by this exactly... I enlisted as an E3 last Thursday, but I graduate in May so Ill be an E4 once I get out to FLW for basic and AIT. I wouldnt mind extra responsibilities but could you give examples of what you mean exactly? Thanks for your help.

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        Re: Off to FLW 20130610

        Originally posted by Sig View Post
        The only people they treat ANY different are E4's, and all they do is give them a leadership position first, but will usually still address them as private.
        Sig's talking about responsibilities while at BCT.

        This is not an accross the board true statement though. It's probably DS and unit dependent. Going into BCT as an E-4 means you have a college degree, so sometimes they call you out but sometimes they don't. At the end of the day though, unless you are a prior-service E-5 or something going through BCT they aren't going to treat you any different.

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          Re: Off to FLW 20130610

          Originally posted by seenicole215 View Post
          Hey, I am wondering what you mean by this exactly... I enlisted as an E3 last Thursday, but I graduate in May so Ill be an E4 once I get out to FLW for basic and AIT. I wouldnt mind extra responsibilities but could you give examples of what you mean exactly? Thanks for your help.
          I hate to break it to you, but once you enlist and sign your contract, you lose that E-4 advancement option for having a Bachelor's degree. You will not be automatically promoted to E-4 simply because you earned a degree from the time your enlisted. I included the actual regulations below for your to reference.

          Reference 601-210...

          CH 2-18(8)

          (8) Has successfully completed a degree-producing college program of 4 years duration and the college or university
          is listed in the AIPE and has been awarded a bachelor degree or higher (foreign degrees and transcripts must be
          evaluated according to para 27f) may enlist at any time at pay grade specialist (SPC). Advanced promotion is
          authorized if college or university provides a letter stating the applicant has met all requirements for a degree, but it
          will not be awarded until commencement ceremony.

          AND

          CH 2-18(16) a & c

          (16) Lacks documentation required for advanced promotion under this paragraph at time of enlistment, they may
          submit supporting documents to the personnel officer within 6 months of enlistment. Documents must be original,
          certified, or evaluated, as required. (This is for those who say they have a degree but can't find their docs)
          (a) College credit or course completion (includes JROTC/ROTC) must have occurred prior to the date of enlistment
          in the RA or entry in IADT for AR or ARNG.


          (c) Effective date and DOR for Soldiers who lacked documentation at time of enlistment will be the effective date
          of the promotion by the unit commander. No retroactive adjustment is authorized and each applicant will be advised
          that failure to produce documents before enlistment or after time frames above will cause them to forfeit entitlement to
          this incentive. The promotion will be for the grade the Soldier is qualified for at the time of enlistment.

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