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  • If some one were to not show up..

    If some one were to have one Rsp left and then bct and they just refused to show up what would generally be the consequences for the states of AZ, CA, VA. No this is not in accordance to myself. Thank you.

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    Re: If some one were to not show up..

    Originally posted by robywon View Post
    If some one were to have one Rsp left and then bct and they just refused to show up what would generally be the consequences for the states of AZ, CA, VA. No this is not in accordance to myself. Thank you.
    Not show up to BCT or the last RSP drill...or both?

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    • #3
      Re: If some one were to not show up..

      Originally posted by ParalegalNCO1 View Post
      Not show up to BCT or the last RSP drill...or both?
      Maybe I read too much into it, but I see this as skipping the last RSP and shipping out to BCT the following week or something.

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      • #4
        Re: If some one were to not show up..

        Originally posted by bai78 View Post
        Maybe I read too much into it, but I see this as skipping the last RSP and shipping out to BCT the following week or something.
        If that is what they mean, it would be as simple as asking for an excused absense from that RSP drill. There would be no reason to just not show up, not tell anyone, and then try to ship, it can be way less complicated than that. Just tell them what is going on. To answer better, we need to know exactly what he/she wants to "miss".

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        • #5
          Re: If some one were to not show up..

          Why would you not go? That's $$$$ cash mo money my man!

          Your final RSP is important because it's the last chance to be administratively correct before leaving.

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          • #6
            Re: If some one were to not show up..

            Skipping, as in...not attending and not informing anyone is a recipe for disaster. Your superiors are very good about remembering individuals that do not call about drill. This decrease in trust can cost someone in the long term. On the opposite side of the fence, being up front and honest with your chain of command can prove beneficial.

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            • #7
              Re: If some one were to not show up..

              Not show up to BCT or the last RSP drill...or both?

              No i mean both... If they in a sense just flat out quit.

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              • #8
                Re: If some one were to not show up..

                You cannot 'just quit'.

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                • #9
                  Re: If some one were to not show up..

                  If they do, they will probably never be part of the military again.

                  You can be arrested for missing your ship date....when I was signing my enlistment contract, I saw someone whom was going to "skip" and the liaisons were already talking about having him arrested. This is not the DEP, as soon as someone swears into the Guard they are members. Once the title 10 orders are cut to attend BCT, it's on like donkey kong.

                  The state still spends serious green like 10s of 1,000s if someone "skips."

                  It would be a terrible decision to skip. Life altering, no more gov jobs, no more military, no paid for college, no doing cool stuff like shooting big a machine guns and eating MRE's out in the woods.

                  It would be D-U-M-B to skip......BCT is easy...a load of fun....something you wouldn't want to miss. I get shivers and chills just thinking about how awesome BCT is......
                  Last edited by Chaplain4me; November 20th, 2012, 03:07 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: If some one were to not show up..

                    My HS buddy started not going to drills and never shipped. I believe they just wrote him out. (I believe it's called entry level separation. A full timer can comment further.) He never went to jail and has worked several jobs, although given what I've heard...I think he should have stayed in. Would have done him good. Instead, he had a girlfriend.....and well....ya know. And he was the one that pulled me into joining the Guard!

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                    • #11
                      Re: If some one were to not show up..

                      Depends on how long he was in RSP. After so many drills they get a characterized discharge. Either way they probably aren't getting back in because of the Re-entry Code, so they can kiss that ship good bye, an opportunity lost. (outcomes may differ, there is my disclaimer).

                      Were the jobs for the Government or private employers? Girlfriend.....ahhh yes, all the conversations I've had about those, and boy friends.

                      Sounds like you are approving someone to cost the state serious $$$ cash mo money!!! Someone will still pay for that slot at the glorious FT Jackson. Someone paid all those hours for the recruiter to waste his time helping someone that will not show. How much is it they spend to recruiter someone $13,000 or something like that?

                      I can't believe you don't get shivers and chills Stevelord, I know you would choose this path again if you had the chance. (though I'm sure if you could do it again you'd choose to be 56M).
                      Last edited by Chaplain4me; November 20th, 2012, 05:32 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: If some one were to not show up..

                        First of it is a VERY BAD IDEA to just skip out on going to RSP, basic training or anything that you are suppose to go to for that matter. If a person wants out you should speak to your recruiter or whoever is in charge of you.

                        Second in this thread I see people posting that you can't get a government job or rejoin the military, well just to correct something joining the military is a government job. I will never understand why people always say them as if they aren't the same thing because the military is part of the government, not its own category.

                        Third just because you can't rejoin the military or get any other kind of government employment that's not the end of the world. There are jobs in the private sector ( not many left at this point all thanks to the depression ) that you can work in. Also not for nothing but its the private sector ( Capitalism ) that built this country, not Socialism with government jobs, if you want to see what a country looks like that is built on the government controlling everything look at the former Soviet Union and just how well that turned out, obviously not well at all. Next time you see an entrepreneur thank them because God knows where we would be without them.

                        Fourth: Last but not least please don't try to get out of the National Guard by failing basic training on purpose or just skipping it and be discharged for it. Do the best you can because you will at some point end up regretting not going through it.

                        Whatever you or the person decide to do I wish you the best of luck and hope it all works out! Take care

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                        • #13
                          Re: If some one were to not show up..

                          I work in state government and I can tell you that full backgrounds checks on potential employees are not always required. Varies by department. We don't do them.

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                          • #14
                            Re: If some one were to not show up..

                            Originally posted by SteveLord View Post
                            I work in state government and I can tell you that full backgrounds checks on potential employees are not always required. Varies by department. We don't do them.
                            Well let me ask you a question than if this person in question who is thinking of skipping RSP and basic training, would they have a chance in hell of getting a job at say your state agency or any agency for that matter?

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                            • #15
                              Re: If some one were to not show up..

                              Sure they would. I was practically indicating that in my previous post. As long as a background check isn't done and this doesn't come up. Again, government job doesn't automatically equal one.

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