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    Ok so i'm prior service marine corporal, going to MEPS hopefully this week and sign my papers for 21B. the recruiter told me they could send me to a condensed course upstate or I could get sent to ft leonard wood for the regular AIT. My feeling is i would rather go to the leonard wood just for the fact that i'm still very much indoctrinated in the culture/customs of the corps and would like to make this transition as smoothly as possible. they say i really only need the condensed one, but there is a good possibility i will be able to choose. which one wold you guys suggest i goto?

    also just to ask does anyone know of corporals course and the sergeants(8000) series distance course counts towards the WLC for sergeant? i really wish i could keep my NCO status grrrr.

  • #2
    Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

    Well basically, the condensed course is Guard MOS producing school that shorten but still meet the requirements of the MOS. For the active duty side, you will to Ft. Leonardwood and do the demo side of the OSUT training.

    If you are just trying to get it done quick then go condense course.

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    • #3
      Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

      not really worried about getting it done with quick i was just assuming thhe long version would help more with adusting to the army.i also heard that the condensed course leaves out little less important details which i would actually like to know lol

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      • #4
        Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

        Ah something like that. I work with alot of "former" marines and you really don't get use to the Guard or the active army.
        But I would recommend to go the long school then

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        • #5
          Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

          Long school for the more thorough training and pay.

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          • #6
            Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

            Originally posted by darkmann View Post
            Ok so i'm prior service marine corporal, going to MEPS hopefully this week and sign my papers for 21B. the recruiter told me they could send me to a condensed course upstate or I could get sent to ft leonard wood for the regular AIT. My feeling is i would rather go to the leonard wood just for the fact that i'm still very much indoctrinated in the culture/customs of the corps and would like to make this transition as smoothly as possible. they say i really only need the condensed one, but there is a good possibility i will be able to choose. which one wold you guys suggest i goto?

            also just to ask does anyone know of corporals course and the sergeants(8000) series distance course counts towards the WLC for sergeant? i really wish i could keep my NCO status grrrr.
            Prior service Marine sergeant here (and capitalize that "M", devil ). I absolutely would NOT recommend going to the condensed course. I was arty in the Marines (0844, hence the screen name), and enlisted in the Guard as Commo. I went to a condensed 5-week course for 25U. The AIT is something like 17 weeks long. Now I'm the Commo Sergeant for my whole company and I don't even know how to install a radio into a humvee. Seriously, at last month's drill I was sitting in the lead vehicle of a convoy with the TM in my hands and a pile of cables at my feet trying to figure out where each cable get's hooked up, because they didn't cover that in the condensed course I attended. It was a total cluster ****.

            Regarding WLC, neither Corporal's course nor the 8000 series MCIs count towards WLC. I just got the definitive word on that last month from my command.

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            • #7
              Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

              If i had the choice, i'd pick the AIT type MOS school at FLW.

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              • #8
                Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                I swear I capitalized it!! Lol. Maybe thew phone auto corrected. So I'm getting the answer is 0844 who were you with? I was with C 1/10 so I know how you arty guys are lol steel rain FTW. And I forgot about the extra money good point. ***** that's nothing transfers over guess I just gotta re earn my NCO title again.

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                • #9
                  Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                  Originally posted by darkmann View Post
                  I swear I capitalized it!! Lol. Maybe thew phone auto corrected. So I'm getting the answer is 0844 who were you with? I was with C 1/10 so I know how you arty guys are lol steel rain FTW. And I forgot about the extra money good point.
                  I was with HQ 1/12 in Hawaii. I heard good things about 1/10. Two of my sergeants came from there and I listened to them for 3 years saying how much 1/12 ****** and how much they wanted to get back to 1/10, lol.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                    heck I was trying to get out of 1/10 lol. Funny like half of my previous post never made it. How was the transition to the guard? Im totally lost on the army customs.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                      It's been an interesting transition so far. Going from corporal to specialist is going to be rough. There's another former Marine in my company that did that, and he hates life because he's now treated like he was as a PFC (E-2 type) in the Marines. It's weird seeing a SFC out in front as a platoon sergeant, considering back in 1/12 our platoon sergeants were usually sergeants or SSGTs, occasionally corporals, and NEVER gunnys. There are certainly cultural differences, but you'll adapt.

                      I think the hardest part is just trying to figure out how different the Army is run from an administrative aspect. Since you're not going to be "brought up" the Army way because you're not going to do RSP and BCT and spend time getting your hand held as a private, a lot of really basic concepts are going to be completely lost on you because it's just common knowledge to everyone else. Last night at a training meeting our first sergeant was talking about how NCOERs were going to be due soon. At one point he asked if there were any further questions regarding the NCOERs, and I raised my hand and asked "What's an NCOER?" He thought I was joking. Apparently it's the Army version of a Fit Rep. Since I came into the Guard as an E-5 already, I'd never been exposed to that term. That's just one of many examples of little things that you just won't know, but that everyone else will think is common knowledge.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                        Yeah I can tell the corporal to specialist thing is really going to get to me especially since it took me so long just to make cpl **** high cutting scores. Don't wannt get treated like a boot again but so be it.well you know nothing bothers a marine than getting treated like a boot.lol. I that's the main reason I want to go tot the long course just so I can watch and learn. Ok ill stop hijacking my own thread. If you wouldn't mind if I thing of any other questions ill just pm you.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                          Actually, now that I think about it, that just further solidifies my opinion that you should go for the AIT. The more time you spend in a formal training environment, the more common knowledge type information you'll have a chance to absorb.

                          EDIT: Sure thing, feel free to PM me anytime. If I don't know I'll try to find out.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                            I guess Marines do fear 1 thing. Being a SPC in the Army.

                            Don't know why.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Condensed course or AIT? which will benefit more?

                              Originally posted by SteveLord View Post
                              I guess Marines do fear 1 thing. Being a SPC in the Army.

                              Don't know why.
                              I wouldn't call it fear, but I do know why. It's a fuctional demotion.

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