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    I am currently considering joining the national guard and have been working with a recruiter, but was wondering about vision requirements. I am severely nearsighted, however it is correctable to 20/20 in one eye and 20/20 or 20/25 in another eye with glasses/contacts. My contact prescription is -9.5 and
    -10.5. I am also considering vision correction surgery, talking with the recruiter, they stated to wait with the surgery until after approved for enlistment, because it would have to be waived in if performed prior to enlistment.
    so my questions are these:

    1. can anyone tell me if I have a chance of joining with these prescriptions?

    2. if my prescriptions would DQ me, would vision correction surgery increase my chance of joining.

    3. Also wondering if anyone knows, if surgery is the option for me-how long does the military require I wait before reapplying.

    4. Would it be possible/acceptable to become enlisted and then like a week later get the surgery as long as i follow the follow-up checkups required by the eye surgeon or does the military have policies against that as well.

    Thank you for your time and your dedication to your country.

  • #2
    what is your uncorrected vision?

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    • #3
      Sorry, I am TDY right no so no access to my files. Just google the AR 40-501 and look under the vision requirements. It's pretty self-explanatory.

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      • #4
        I think (but am not 100% certain) I am 20/100 uncorrected vision. It may not make a difference, but I passed the medical exams-specifically the vision requirements for a federal law enforcement academy (thought it may be similar being they are both standards for the government)

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        • #5
          I'm only speaking from personal experience, so please consult the regs provided and continue to speak with your recruiter, but in my case my vision is correctable with glasses and an optometrist at Ft. Meade verified that there is nothing structurally wrong with my eyes. HOWEVER, my refraction is 0.5 and 1.25 too high. I don't know if you have that measurement, but you may want to check that as well. That is what required me to need a waiver, not that my vision needed correction with lenses, and my sight without glasses is pretty bad.

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          • #6
            2–12. Eyes
            a. Lids.
            (1) Current blepharitis (373), chronic or acute, until cured (373.00), is disqualifying.
            (2) Current blepharospasm (333.81) is disqualifying.
            (3) Current dacryocystitis, acute or chronic (375.30) is disqualifying.
            (4) Deformity of the lids (374.4), complete or extensive lid deformity, sufficient to interfere with vision or impair
            protection of the eye from exposure is disqualifying.
            (5) Current growths or tumors of the eyelid, other than small, non-progressive, asymptomatic, benign lesions, are
            disqualifying.
            b. Conjunctiva.
            (1) Current chronic conjunctivitis (372.1), including, but not limited to trachoma (076) and chronic allergic conjunctivitis
            (372.14), is disqualifying.
            (2) Current or recurrent pterygium, (372.4), if condition encroaches on the cornea in excess of 3 mm, or interferes
            with vision, or is a progressive peripheral pterygium (372.42), or recurring pterygium after two operative procedures
            (372.45), is disqualifying.
            (3) Current xerophthalmia (372.53) is disqualifying.
            c. Cornea.
            (1) Current or history of corneal dystrophy of any type (371.5), including but not limited to keratoconus (371.6) of
            any degree is disqualifying.
            (2) History of refractive surgery including, but not limited to: Lamellar (P11.7) and/or penetrating keratoplasty
            [B](P11.6). Radial Keratotomy and Astigmatic Keratotomy is disqualifying. Refractive surgery performed with an Excimer
            L a s e r , i n c l u d i n g b u t n o t l i m i t e d t o , P h o t o r e f r a c t i v e K e r a t e c t o m y ( c o m m o n l y k n o w n a s P R K ) , L a s e r E p i t h e l i a l
            Keratomileusis (commonly known as LASEK), and Laser-Assisted in situ Keratomileusis (commonly known as
            LASIK) (P11.7) is disqualifying if any of the following conditions are met:
            (a) Pre-surgical refractive error in either eye exceeds + 8.00 to - 8.00 diopters.
            (b) At least 6 months recovery period has not occurred between last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and
            accession medical examination.
            (c) There have been complications, and/or medications or ophthalmic solutions are required.
            (d) Post-surgical refraction in each eye is not stable as demonstrated by—
            1. At least two separate refractions at least one month apart, the most recent of which demonstrates more than +/-
            0.50 diopters difference for spherical vision and/or more than +/- 0.25 diopters for cylinder vision; and
            2. At least 3 months recovery has not occurred between the last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and one
            of the comparison refractions.
            (e) Pre-surgical and post-surgical refractive error does not meet the standards for the Military Service to which the
            candidate is applying.[/B](3) Current keratitis (370), acute or chronic, including, but not limited to recurrent corneal ulcers (370.0), erosions
            (abrasions), or herpetic ulcers (054.42) is disqualifying.
            (4) Current corneal vascularization (370.6) or corneal opacification (371) from any cause that is progressive or
            reduces vision below the standards prescribed in paragraph 2–13 is disqualifying.
            8 AR 40–501 • 14 December 2007
            d. Uveitis or iridocyclitis. Current or history of uveitis or iridocyclitis (364.3) is disqualifying.
            e. Retina.
            (1) Current or history of retinal defects and dystrophies, angiomatoses (759.6), retinoschisis and retinal cysts
            (361.1), phakomas (362.89), and other congenito-retinal hereditary conditions (362.7) that impair visual function or are
            progressive, are disqualifying.
            (2) Current or history of any chorioretinal or retinal inflammatory conditions, including, but not limited to conditions
            leading to neovascularization, chorioretinitis, histoplasmosis, toxoplasmosis, or vascular conditions of the eye to
            include Coats’ disease, or Eales’ disease (363) is disqualifying.
            (3) Current or history of degenerative changes of any part of the retina (362) is disqualifying.
            (4) Current or history of detachment of the retina (361), history of surgery for same, or peripheral retinal injury,
            defect (361.3), or degeneration that may cause retinal detachment is disqualifying.
            f. Optic nerve.
            (1) Current or history of optic neuritis (377.3), including, but not limited to neuroretinitis, secondary optic atrophy,
            or documented history of retrobulbar neuritis is disqualifying.
            (2) Current or history of optic atrophy (377.1), or cortical blindness (377.75) is disqualifying.
            (3) Current or history of papilledema (377.0) is disqualifying.
            g. Lens.
            (1) Current aphakia (379.31), history of lens implant, or current or history of dislocation of a lens is disqualifying.
            (2) Current or history of opacities of the lens (366) that interfere with vision or that are considered to be
            progressive, including cataract (366.9), are disqualifying.
            h. Ocular mobility and motility.
            (1) Current diplopia (386.2) is disqualifying.
            (2) Current nystagmus (379.50) other than physiologic “end-point nystagmus” is disqualifying.
            (3) Esotropia (378.0), and hypertropia (378.31). For entrance into the USMA or ROTC programs, the following
            conditions are also disqualifying: esotropia of over 15 prism diopters; exotropia of over 10 prism diopters; hypertropia
            of over 5 prism diopters.
            i. Miscellaneous defects and conditions.
            (1) Current or history of abnormal visual fields due to disease of the eye or central nervous system (368.4), or
            trauma (368.9) is disqualifying.
            (2) Absence of an eye, clinical anophthalmos, unspecified congenital (743.00) or acquired, or current or history of
            other disorders of globe (360.8) is disqualifying.
            (3) Current asthenopia (368.13), is disqualifying.
            (4) Current unilateral or bilateral non-familial exophthalmos (376) is disqualifying.
            (5) Current or history of glaucoma (365), including, but not limited to primary, secondary, or pre-glaucoma as
            evidenced by intraocular pressure above 21 millimeters of mercury (mmHg), or changes in the optic disc or visual field
            loss associated with glaucoma, is disqualifying.
            (6) Current loss of normal pupillary reflex reactions to accommodation (367.5) or light (379.4), including Adie’s
            syndrome, is disqualifying.
            (7) Current night blindness (368.6) is disqualifying.
            (8) Current or history of retained intraocular foreign body (360) is disqualifying.
            (9) Current or history of any organic disease of the eye (360) or adnexa (376) not specified above, which threatens
            vision or visual function, is disqualifying.

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            • #7
              2–13. Vision
              a. Current distant visual acuity of any degree that does not correct with spectacle lenses to at least one of the
              following (367) is disqualifying:
              (1) 20/40 in one eye and 20/70 in the other eye.
              (2) 20/30 in one eye and 20/100 in the other eye.
              (3) 20/20 in one eye and 20/400 in the other eye.
              b. However, for entrance into USMA or ROTC, distant visual acuity that does not correct to 20/20 in one eye and
              20/40 in the other eye is disqualifying. For entrance into OCS, distant visual acuity that does not correct to 20/20 in
              one eye and 20/100 in the other eye is disqualifying.
              c. Current near visual acuity (367) of any degree that does not correct to 20/40 in the better eye is disqualifying.
              d. Current refractive error (hyperopia (367.0), myopia (367.1), astigmatism (367.2)), or history of refractive error
              prior to any refractive surgery manifest by any refractive error in spherical equivalent of worse than -8.00 or +8.00
              diopters is disqualifying. However, for entrance into USMA or Army ROTC programs, the following conditions are
              disqualifying:
              (1) Astigmatism, all types over 3 diopters.
              (2) Hyperopia over 8.00 diopters spherical equivalent.
              (3) Myopia over 8 diopters spherical equivalent.
              (4) Refractive error corrected by orthokeratology or keratorefractive surgery.
              e. Contact lenses. Current complicated cases requiring contact lenses for adequate correction of vision, such as
              corneal scars (371) and irregular astigmatism (367.2), are disqualifying.
              f. Color vision (368.5). Failure to pass a color vision test is not an automatic disqualification. Although there is no
              standard, color vision will be tested because adequate color vision is a prerequisite for entry into many military
              specialties. However, for entrance into the USMA or Army ROTC or OCS programs, the inability to distinguish and
              identify without confusion the color of an object, substance, material, or light that is uniformly colored a vivid red or
              vivid green is disqualifying.

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              • #8
                Thanks Robin for posting the regs. I always feel bad when I'm TDY and can't post it from my crackberry.

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                • #9
                  Im not sure what the regs are, but without my glasses im blind as can be. I passed the vission with no problems at all. Bare in mind if i dont have my glasses i cant see crap i.e if i lost my glasses in a fire fight I would prolly die.

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                  • #10
                    Thank you all for your replies. I am going for an annual eye exam next week, if the doctor says that my vision is in the listed disqualifiers-is there any potential to get a waiver or are vision waivers hard to come by.

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                    • #11
                      Waivers in the guard have been put on hold because of the recruiting numbers being up so high. Look to mabye see a short break in waiver bans in oct.

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE=robinpugs06]2–12. Eyes
                        a. Lids.
                        (1) Current blepharitis (373), chronic or acute, until cured (373.00), is disqualifying.
                        (2) Current blepharospasm (333.81) is disqualifying.
                        (3) Current dacryocystitis, acute or chronic (375.30) is disqualifying.
                        (4) Deformity of the lids (374.4), complete or extensive lid deformity, sufficient to interfere with vision or impair
                        protection of the eye from exposure is disqualifying.
                        (5) Current growths or tumors of the eyelid, other than small, non-progressive, asymptomatic, benign lesions, are
                        disqualifying.
                        b. Conjunctiva.
                        (1) Current chronic conjunctivitis (372.1), including, but not limited to trachoma (076) and chronic allergic conjunctivitis
                        (372.14), is disqualifying.
                        (2) Current or recurrent pterygium, (372.4), if condition encroaches on the cornea in excess of 3 mm, or interferes
                        with vision, or is a progressive peripheral pterygium (372.42), or recurring pterygium after two operative procedures
                        (372.45), is disqualifying.
                        (3) Current xerophthalmia (372.53) is disqualifying.
                        c. Cornea.
                        (1) Current or history of corneal dystrophy of any type (371.5), including but not limited to keratoconus (371.6) of
                        any degree is disqualifying.
                        (2) History of refractive surgery including, but not limited to: Lamellar (P11.7) and/or penetrating keratoplasty
                        [B](P11.6). Radial Keratotomy and Astigmatic Keratotomy is disqualifying. Refractive surgery performed with an Excimer
                        L a s e r , i n c l u d i n g b u t n o t l i m i t e d t o , P h o t o r e f r a c t i v e K e r a t e c t o m y ( c o m m o n l y k n o w n a s P R K ) , L a s e r E p i t h e l i a l
                        Keratomileusis (commonly known as LASEK), and Laser-Assisted in situ Keratomileusis (commonly known as
                        LASIK) (P11.7) is disqualifying if any of the following conditions are met:
                        (a) Pre-surgical refractive error in either eye exceeds + 8.00 to - 8.00 diopters.
                        (b) At least 6 months recovery period has not occurred between last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and
                        accession medical examination.
                        (c) There have been complications, and/or medications or ophthalmic solutions are required.
                        (d) Post-surgical refraction in each eye is not stable as demonstrated by—
                        1. At least two separate refractions at least one month apart, the most recent of which demonstrates more than +/-
                        0.50 diopters difference for spherical vision and/or more than +/- 0.25 diopters for cylinder vision; and
                        2. At least 3 months recovery has not occurred between the last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and one
                        of the comparison refractions.
                        (e) Pre-surgical and post-surgical refractive error does not meet the standards for the Military Service to which the
                        candidate is applying.[/B](3) Current keratitis (370), acute or chronic, including, but not limited to recurrent corneal ulcers (370.0), erosions
                        (abrasions), or herpetic ulcers (054.42) is disqualifying.
                        (4) Current corneal vascularization (370.6) or corneal opacification (371) from any cause that is progressive or
                        reduces vision below the standards prescribed in paragraph 2–13 is disqualifying.
                        8 AR 40–501 • 14 December 2007
                        d. Uveitis or iridocyclitis. Current or history of uveitis or iridocyclitis (364.3) is disqualifying.
                        e. Retina.
                        (1) Current or history of retinal defects and dystrophies, angiomatoses (759.6), retinoschisis and retinal cysts
                        (361.1), phakomas (362.89), and other congenito-retinal hereditary conditions (362.7) that impair visual function or are
                        progressive, are disqualifying.
                        (2) Current or history of any chorioretinal or retinal inflammatory conditions, including, but not limited to conditions
                        leading to neovascularization, chorioretinitis, histoplasmosis, toxoplasmosis, or vascular conditions of the eye to
                        include Coats’ disease, or Eales’ disease (363) is disqualifying.
                        (3) Current or history of degenerative changes of any part of the retina (362) is disqualifying.
                        (4) Current or history of detachment of the retina (361), history of surgery for same, or peripheral retinal injury,
                        defect (361.3), or degeneration that may cause retinal detachment is disqualifying.
                        f. Optic nerve.
                        (1) Current or history of optic neuritis (377.3), including, but not limited to neuroretinitis, secondary optic atrophy,
                        or documented history of retrobulbar neuritis is disqualifying.
                        (2) Current or history of optic atrophy (377.1), or cortical blindness (377.75) is disqualifying.
                        (3) Current or history of papilledema (377.0) is disqualifying.
                        g. Lens.
                        (1) Current aphakia (379.31), history of lens implant, or current or history of dislocation of a lens is disqualifying.
                        (2) Current or history of opacities of the lens (366) that interfere with vision or that are considered to be
                        progressive, including cataract (366.9), are disqualifying.
                        h. Ocular mobility and motility.
                        (1) Current diplopia (386.2) is disqualifying.
                        (2) Current nystagmus (379.50) other than physiologic “end-point nystagmus” is disqualifying.
                        (3) Esotropia (378.0), and hypertropia (378.31). For entrance into the USMA or ROTC programs, the following
                        conditions are also disqualifying: esotropia of over 15 prism diopters; exotropia of over 10 prism diopters; hypertropia
                        of over 5 prism diopters.
                        i. Miscellaneous defects and conditions.
                        (1) Current or history of abnormal visual fields due to disease of the eye or central nervous system (368.4), or
                        trauma (368.9) is disqualifying.
                        (2) Absence of an eye, clinical anophthalmos, unspecified congenital (743.00) or acquired, or current or history of
                        other disorders of globe (360.8) is disqualifying.
                        (3) Current asthenopia (368.13), is disqualifying.
                        (4) Current unilateral or bilateral non-familial exophthalmos (376) is disqualifying.
                        (5) Current or history of glaucoma (365), including, but not limited to primary, secondary, or pre-glaucoma as
                        evidenced by intraocular pressure above 21 millimeters of mercury (mmHg), or changes in the optic disc or visual field
                        loss associated with glaucoma, is disqualifying.
                        (6) Current loss of normal pupillary reflex reactions to accommodation (367.5) or light (379.4), including Adie’s
                        syndrome, is disqualifying.
                        (7) Current night blindness (368.6) is disqualifying.
                        (8) Current or history of retained intraocular foreign body (360) is disqualifying.
                        (9) Current or history of any organic disease of the eye (360) or adnexa (376) not specified above, which threatens
                        vision or visual function, is disqualifying.[/QUOTE]


                        JEEZ... do they check for all that stuff at reception? lol...

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