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    On active duty, how long can an E-4 stay in the Army until he/she is separated for not making rank. What is that called?

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    [QUOTE=militarymak]On active duty, how long can an E-4 stay in the Army until he/she is separated for not making rank. What is that called?[/QUOTE]
    a lazy specialist? :eek:

    edit: it was a joke. i'm aware of the fact that promotion is based not only on points and the soldier's credentials, but also on slots available. just j/k-ing.

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    • #3
      [QUOTE=militarymak]On active duty, how long can an E-4 stay in the Army until he/she is separated for not making rank. What is that called?[/QUOTE]


      The term you are referring to is RCP - Retention Control Point.
      For SPC/CPL, the RCP is 10 years of Active Federal Service.
      For SPC/CPL Promotable, the RCP is 15 years of Active Federal Service.
      For SGT, the RCP is 15 years and SGT Promotable is 20 years.

      Reference:
      AR 601-280, Table 3-1 Retention Control Points

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      • #4
        Thanks thats exactly what I was looking for.

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        • #5
          Re: Rank separation?

          Enlisted retention control changes begin on June 1


          By Jim Tice


          The
          countdown has begun for the June 1 launch of new retention con*trol points that
          sharply reduce the time active-duty soldiers can stay in service without being
          promoted.

          The new up-or-out rules, which affect nearly 400,000 soldiers,
          apply to Regular Army soldiers and enlisted members of the Active Guard and
          Reserve serving under the “Title 10” provisions of federal law.

          Although
          soldiers must, in most cases, make the next rank several years sooner than
          before, there is a way they can extend their time in service. Soldiers in the
          ranks of sergeant and promotable sergeant who have elected to take the Career
          Status Bonus, and who have completed a DD Form 2839 before June 1, can serve up
          to 20 years of active federal service.

          Soldiers in the ranks of staff
          sergeant and promotable staff sergeant who have, or will, sign on for the bonus before June 1 can stay for up to 23 years of
          service.

          The changes coming June 1 reduce the retention control point for
          privates and privates first class from eight to five years, for spe*cialists
          from 10 to eight years, for promotable specialists from 15 to 12 years, for
          sergeants from 15 to 13 years, for promotable sergeants from 20 to 15 years and
          for staff sergeants from 23 to 20 years.

          Retention control points are the
          number of years of service soldiers may perform on active duty at a particular
          rank before they are required to separate or retire, or before they reach a
          mandatory release date for age.

          The policies do not apply to National
          Guard and Army Reserve soldiers who are mobilized, mem*bers of the Individual
          Ready Reserve, Troop Program Unit sol*diers, Army National Guard sol*diers
          serving in a Title 32 program, or soldiers who are in Man Day (M-Day) Status.
          Retention control point changes that apply to Title 32
          soldiers will be announced in the future by the National Guard Bureau, personnel
          officials said.

          Retention control points for National Guard soldiers
          serving in the Title 10 AGR program are 20 years of service for the ranks of
          sergeant and below, and 23 years for staff sergeant.

          While the new RCPs
          were pro*moted by the requirements of a new leader development system for
          enlisted soldiers, Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said they would make a minor
          contribution to the 22,000-soldier drawdown scheduled for the next two
          years.

          Most of that force reduction will be accomplished through normal
          attrition, Casey said March 22.

          The new leader development sys*tem is
          designed to keep soldiers and their peers on generally the same timeline as they
          move through a series of schooling events, assign*ments and
          promotions.

          Deployed soldiers who reach their retention control point
          dur*ing deployment will be allowed to serve up to 12 months from rede*ployment
          plus 90 days before being released from active service. Sepa*ration dates for
          these soldiers will be no earlier than 90 days after
          redeployment. This policy excep*tion will expire for all soldiers who deploy
          after Oct. 1, 2011.

          Soldiers who are not serving an indefinite
          re-enlistment, and who reach their retention control point before the end of
          their current enlistment will be allowed to serve out that enlistment. The
          policy includes soldiers who have been reduced in grade, or removed from a
          promotion selection list, either voluntarily or involuntarily.

          The
          retirement lock-in rule that generally bars the involuntary sep*aration of
          soldiers with 18 to 20 years of active service applies to the new RCP policy.
          This means soldiers with 18 to 20 years of ser*vice may not be separated unless
          the appropriate Uniform Code of Military Justice convening authori*ty recommends
          discharge, and that recommendation is approved by the assistant secretary of the
          Army for manpower and reserve affairs.

          Under the Redux retirement sys*tem
          established in 2000, career sol*diers have the option of taking a $30,000 bonus
          during their 15th year of service in return for reduced retirement pay and
          cost-of-living adjustments after they retire.

          Soldiers with questions
          should contact their career counselor. □ *Master
          sergeants selected to attend the Sergeants Major Course for the purpose of
          promotion to sergeant major are authorized to serve up to 32
          years.

          **Command sergeants major and sergeants major serving in
          nominative positions for a general officer or a Senior Executive Service
          supervisor, or as the commandant of the Sergeants Major Academy, or as executive
          officer to the sergeant major of the Army, may serve up to 35 years.

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