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    Okay, I can't take credit for this. Apparently, there has been too much controversy here lately for users to feel comfortable starting new "off topic" threads. This was PMed to me and I will gladly post it. :)

    Conspiracy Theories: The Mysterious Death of General Patton
    Friday , December 19, 2008

    By Cyd Upson and Michael Weiss

    FOX NEWS link: [url],2933,469688,00.html[/url]

    Was General George S. Patton murdered?


    On December 21, 1945, America's iconic four-star General, who had triumphed from the deserts of North Africa to Hitler's doorstep, was pronounced dead at the 130th Field Hospital in Heidelberg, Germany. He was 60-years-old.

    Twelve days earlier, General Patton had set off on a pheasant hunting trip near Mannheim when his Cadillac staff car collided with a two-and-a-half ton U.S. Army truck. Patton was immediately paralyzed from the neck down. His driver, PFC Horace Woodring and his chief of staff, General Hap Gay, walked away with barely a scratch. Was it just a freak automobile accident as the Army concluded or was it, as some conspiracy theorists believe, a calculated assassination attempt by the Russians or the OSS?

    In "War Stories Investigates: The Remarkable Life and Mysterious Death of General Patton," we tried to uncover the truth. Our investigation uncovered very few records from the accident. When we dug through Patton's military personnel file at the National Archives in St. Louis, out of more than 1300 pages of documents, a mere 15 were devoted to the car crash. Strangely, the Army accident report went missing shortly after the accident.

    • Catch the "War Stories Classic: The Remarkable Life and Mysterious Death of General Patton," Mon., December 22 at 3 a.m. ET

    We traveled to Germany with Oliver North to the scene of the crash and to the hospital room where Patton spent his last days. We also stepped inside Patton's restored 1939 Cadillac, which is on display at the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor at Ft. Knox in Kentucky.

    Several of Patton's grandchildren spoke to us, including grandson James Patton Totten, who said, "My grandmother had hired several private detectives to investigate it and they didn't find anything to substantiate the rumor."

    We met up with Patton's granddaughter Helen Patton Plusczyk in Heidelberg at the Christ Church where her grandfather's funeral was held. She recalled one of the conspiracy theories she'd heard over the years: "The most outrageous one came from a mysterious colonel, who had been a spy for the Russians, the Germans, and Americans during the war, operating radio stations in Normandy. That a nurse, or a medical aide, had been instructed by someone, to — as soon as my grandmother would leave the hospital room — open the windows of Grandpa's room, so that he would contract pneumonia."

    We tracked down Bertha Hohle, the 24-year-old nurse from Minnesota who cared for the general in the hospital: "He said to me once, 'Why can't I feel my hands?' That's really hard to tell somebody that, look at that, you can't use your arms." Bertha did not feel that Patton was murdered. She believed he died from pulmonary edema and congestive heart failure, which were cited as the official causes of death. An autopsy was never performed.

    One person who strongly believes Patton was murdered was military author and journalist Robert Wilcox. Speaking publicly for the first time, Wilcox told "War Stories Investigates" that OSS spymaster William "Wild Bill" Donovan ordered an agent to kill the often outspoken general because he wanted to drag America into another war… with Russia. Wilcox told us: "[Douglas] Bazata is a world class marksman. And he shot, at close range, a special weapon into that car and that's what broke his neck."

    When the accident failed to kill Patton, Wilcox said that a Russian agent snuck into Patton's room to poison him." Military Historian Kevin Hymel disagreed strongly with Wilcox's theories: "Yes, he did have enemies. But did he have enemies that were so afraid of him, that they would kill him? That's a pretty far stretch."

    While General Patton's death may forever be shrouded in mystery, one thing is certain, he was a brilliant military leader. Retired Brigadier General Albin Irzyk, a tank commander who led Patton's 3rd Army to Bastogne, said it best: "He's the purest warrior we've ever had, I think he's by far the greatest field commander we've ever had. He couldn't have been a Marshall, he couldn't have been an Eisenhower, he was Patton. He climbed his mountain. There's nothing left for him to conquer."

    — Cyd Upson is "War Stories" senior producer. Michael Weiss is "War Stories" producer

  • #2
    This may not generate heated discussion (which is okay), but it is interesting. And why do they always blame the nurse? :rolleyes:

    GEN Patton was a great historic figure and I love quoting him. :)


    • #3
      Ya he was one of this nations best if not the best, he would have kicked the Soviets buts if given a chance. It makes sense that somebody would have wanted him out of the way he kept trying to start a war with the russians and he ticked a lot of people off but I guess we'll never really know!


      • #4
        Just not enough proof to really conclude a conspiracy honestly. Conspiracy theorists always try to find a conspiracy in everything now a days.


        • #5
          Again, something I start seems to take off lol.

          Anyway, I am in the Heidelberg-Mannheim area daily and Heidelberg (Kaserne) Hospital no longer exists; its a clinic and with our newspaper daily; this didnt even pop up so I guess if its not a concern for soldiers in this area then its a ploy of Fix (fox) news lol

          By the way, I eat chow everyday at the Heidelberg MEDDAC DFAC ;)

          Pic is so small, I cant even see the plates on the car. Here in Germany, the plates start with the initials of the town. So for Mannheim, the plates start with MA and for Heidelberg its HD. The barracks up in Mannheim, (Sullivan, Funari, Taylor) doesnt resemble anything in the picture. Well so much has changed since 45 anyway lol. Matter of fact, the base I worked on in Heidelberg that housed my MP Company (529th MP Co.) is based on Patton Barracks.

          Here is some history if any of you Guardsman come to do a "deployment" over here.