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    I am prior service marine corp 4 years active 4 years reserve. Before I signed my contract I made sure it said Corporal on the page. I told him I wouldnt sign unless I had seargent. He informed me that I couldnt get that but he would get me seargent just after I got to my command...and I would be a corporal basicly in line for E-5. now I am being told there is no corporal? What should I do?

  • #2
    If you signed a contract that said you were a corporal seems to me the NG is breaking the contract already...

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    • #3
      Does your paperwork say anything about Corporal,Specialist, or E-4? Ask your recruiter to show it to you on the paperwork.. Remember most of the time, if it is not in writing, it didnt happen. ... Recruiters.. :D :D Gotta love'em

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      • #4
        [QUOTE=Phantom]Recruiters.. :D :D Gotta love'em[/QUOTE]

        I came back after a 20 year gap and they hadn't changed a bit.:D

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        • #5
          [QUOTE=Phantom]Does your paperwork say anything about Corporal,Specialist, or E-4? Ask your recruiter to show it to you on the paperwork.. Remember most of the time, if it is not in writing, it didnt happen. ... Recruiters.. :D :D Gotta love'em[/QUOTE]

          I have looked at my contract several times on the paper were it says enlistment rank( I believe those are the words) it says "E-4 Cpl" I even informed my recruited that as a former marine I will not reenlist in anything unless I have my former rank or above. I busted my *** in the marines to make Cpl and I deserve to wear that rank

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          • #6
            A little more info other than "now Im being told there is no corporal" could help.

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            • #7
              You just posted in the other thread saying that youll be going in as an e4 smp? And once an smp, you're on the e5 paygrade...so why the worry? Because once you're a cadet, you don't really have a rank and you're still making the "big bucks" of an e5

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              • #8
                I had a lengthy conversation with a few friends still in the military and my old platoon commander I decided that its not worth worrying about. I am making the leap from Marine Non Commissioned officer in to the officer ranks, pushing my career farther. I just haven't had time to come back here and delete this thread or add a post saying thanks for all the info I got.


                From the earlier poster I told my recruiter that I wouldn't sign unless I received cpl, when I seen my contract it said cpl then my command that I am in I was talking to a sgt there who said the army doesn't have cpl.

                Anyway, Thanks again for all the help

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                • #9
                  Ok i think there is some confusion here about ranks and promotions between the army and marines.

                  For one the army does have cpl. It just is that cpl is only given out really in combat units as well as you have to be in a team leader position.

                  Second there is no contract in any service that will promote you just for comming in. That is not earning the rank.

                  Third once you come into the National Guard you have to wait a year to even get promoted no matter what your rank. You might ask why? Cause who is it fair to if you come back into the service in a new branch and get promoted before a soldier that might have been waiting for that promotion for the past year or two.

                  The National guard is not active service, we promote into slots. And a point system. And coming from the marine corps depending what MOS i could bet almost anything that there is another E4 in your unit that is up for the next E5 slot promotion.

                  To demand cpl is funny to. As probably 97 percent of e4s are specialists.

                  Its like saying that your are a lance cpl in the marines and demanding in the army. It just doesnt excist. you would be a PFC in the army.


                  And your contract saying cpl doesnt mean there is a breach of contract. E4 is SPC and CPL is just a administrative promotion/demotion or what we call latteral promotion. And if you are in a combat unit most E4 specialist will be doing the same job as a CPL.

                  CPL in the army just doesnt mean what it does in the marines.

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