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    just curious, how many of you have seen combat, and how common is it for guard units to be involved in combat operations?

  • #2
    Chief....

    Someone want to see your pics :rolleyes: lol


    The National Guard has 55% of the total Armys combat units


    and its HOOAH

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    • #3
      I participated in over 200 combat missions but with the 101st Airborne Division. My old guard unit was PSD (42Alphas). When they got deployed to Kuwait, their sole mission was to do combat patrols in Humvees. So you will never know when it comes to your MOS and mission.

      I ran into them in Kuwait and was surprised that was what they were tasked to do but they executed and no casualties throughout their tour.

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      • #4
        hooyah is Navy lol Its ok Ski, you post your combat pics.
        Last edited by WO1 Quinones; September 7th, 2008, 08:51 PM.

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        • #5
          [QUOTE=WO1 Quinones]hooyah is Navy lol Its ok Ski, you post your combat pics.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

          Sorry chief I havent eployed since 1992 when I went to CUBA. Those pics are on paper. You have the monopoly on combat experience and my respect for it.

          Hooyah is really Navy? They have a chant.

          The AF is "beer me" :rolleyes:

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          • #6
            Yes its Navy. Well many more of my comrades saw worst and experienced worst casualties. In retrospect, I have alot to be thankful for my tour. Saddens me though that some of my brothers that I served with returned and havent been so lucky. Pains me.

            I thought the AF was "airpower!!"

            Wow you been to GITMO. Not a se*y assignment. Must of been an experience.

            And there are many others on this forum that have been in the suck.
            Last edited by WO1 Quinones; September 7th, 2008, 08:56 PM.

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            • #7
              I went to Gitmo in 92 with the Haitians...I help build many of the camps that have evolved to what they use today. BTW I was AF at the time. I got a humanitarian medal for it. I was scared to he11 three times when a defector came acoss the bay. 105s firing, A4s taking off. But I am sure nothing compared to what you experinced.

              AF doesn't get into that stuff. :rolleyes: they think they are to :cool:

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              • #8
                Well some of the AFs guys who got hurt or killed in Afghanistan and Iraq been through worst.

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                • #9
                  I've deployed for two tours, to both theaters, and I'm anticipating my third within 2 years.

                  First was 04-05 to Iraq, and it was heavy combat. Contact was regular, both in garrison and out on the road. We were Infantry soldiers doing area security and convoy escort. The base we lived on was rocketed daily. My platoon conducted over 750 combat missions, and I was on the ground for probably half or more of those.

                  07-08 was Afghanistan, and was technically a combat theater, but little of our experience was direct action. I worked extensively with a Provincial Police Chief in securing his sector, and had more experience with crime than Taliban activities, however most of the crime supported those efforts. The last bit of my tour was as an Assistant S-3 for the command in my area, and we planned anti-Taliban operations, but often met with an enemy too weak to fight. We probably talked to several of their operatives, and senior local Taliban officials were often seen by the S-2 while out working in the sector. Couldn't put my finger on how many missions we ran, but we went out for a week at a time, coming back in for 1 day of maintenance/paperwork and then hitting the road again, for about 8 mo.

                  If you join the military, plan to deploy. It is no different in the Guard or any other branch of service. We have regular missions to complete, and mobilize every asset available to do it. You may not deploy as frequently as I have (I volunteered for the 2nd tour), but you will likely go every 4-6 years until we decide to reduce our operations.

                  CPT B

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                  • #10
                    My utmost respect for taking part in both campaigns. I know I have to deploy again but I am hoping for an Afghanistan tour this time around but if its back to Iraq then so be it.

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                    • #11
                      I deployed to GTMO from 04-05. I would call it the least worse place to be I guess. It was boring as hell there. The command took regular dumps on the infantry while catering to the MPs, sailors or airmen. And then half of them got busted in a s3x scandal which lead to my BN commander being relieved, along with a colonel and 1 star. Company commander was a scumbag to his troops, fellow officers and senior NCOs. One squared away NCO that went to DS school lost it and threatened to kill him if he ever saw him on his patrols. Someone circulated a secret newspaper that called out stupid stuff going on and namedropped some people. The detainees get treated better than the soldiers do and they actually went as far as dropping our "mandatory" dental checkups in favor of doing it for them instead.

                      So boredom and the command was the enemy. 14hr shifts 14 days straight sitting in a tower, checkpoint or patroling can make you do some silly things under the radar. Got pics and videos =) That was about the only fun part...doing bad stuff and not getting caught.

                      It was an interesting experience, but waste of infantry doing an MP mission in my opinion. I really believe its a stain on the unit's history and that if we had to stay another year for some reason that people would have mutinied or seriously hurt/killed someone.

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                      • #12
                        Well MPs were strung out due to both campaigns so I commend you for your unit doing those missions. It wasnt like you could augment the Marines in what they been doing for eons over there.

                        I remember the time when they were disbanding Artillery Units in the Guard and making them MPs and sending them to Fort LeonardWood. The course for them was much shorter in duration and they were only to be slated as being provisional. Once they did what they were needed for then they will revert back to artillerymen but they are doing infantry missions as well. Its a crazy war.

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=WO1 Quinones]Well MPs were strung out due to both campaigns so I commend you for your unit doing those missions. It wasnt like you could augment the Marines in what they been doing for eons over there.

                          I remember the time when they were disbanding Artillery Units in the Guard and making them MPs and sending them to Fort LeonardWood. The course for them was much shorter in duration and they were only to be slated as being provisional. Once they did what they were needed for then they will revert back to artillerymen but they are doing infantry missions as well. Its a crazy war.[/QUOTE]

                          Oh we had those. There was a field artillery unit or two that were there doing MP stuff.

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                          • #14
                            Iraq: 2003

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                            • #15
                              South side of chicago, 1998. It was horrible man, my jeep still has bullet holes in it.... Odd that my insurance at 17 years old wouldn't cover bullet holes...

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