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  • #16
    Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

    Originally posted by RKasp View Post
    Now I see. So even if there's 'expedited citizenship' indicated in the MOS description (here, on this site), I must actually be a citizen BEFORE I join in order to be trained for this profession. Thanks again. This 'expedited citizenship' is obviously misleading, one may think that you can join and receive the needed citizenship while training. It's very good that you clarified this point.
    Im with SteveLord, show me where it says that?

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    • #17
      Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

      I am sorry. Now I see. I saw it here http://www.nationalguard.com/careers...er-translators , but I made a mistake in supposing that this applies both to Interpreters and Linguists. Although, honestly speaking, I do not understand: as I see it, Interpreters can also work with very secret information, especially if they "interpret the communications of high-rank officers", as it's mentioned on the same page. And at the same time linguists must have citizenship and clearance from the very beginning while interpreters can use "expedited citizenship"? Or the interpreters do not need security clearance??? Please enlighten me.

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      • #18
        Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

        Originally posted by RKasp View Post
        I am sorry. Now I see. I saw it here http://www.nationalguard.com/careers...er-translators , but I made a mistake in supposing that this applies both to Interpreters and Linguists. Although, honestly speaking, I do not understand: as I see it, Interpreters can also work with very secret information, especially if they "interpret the communications of high-rank officers", as it's mentioned on the same page. And at the same time linguists must have citizenship and clearance from the very beginning while interpreters can use "expedited citizenship"? Or the interpreters do not need security clearance??? Please enlighten me.
        While your interpretation of who should have classified information is a little comical...The 09L program is for native speakers of the MIDDLE EAST and SOUTHWEST ASIA....why did you even read past that line?

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        • #19
          Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

          While at 11B OSUT last year we had 12 non Citizens. Every single one of them received Citizenship the end of OSUT, and they all were given help with filing the paperwork etc. One of them switched to an 18X contract, passed selection and is now in the SF pipeline. There are a wealth of non citizen jobs out there, and you will get Citizenship by the end of Basic.

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          • #20
            Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

            Still need to be a permanent resident with a green card.

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            • #21
              Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

              Originally posted by USAForever View Post
              While at 11B OSUT last year we had 12 non Citizens. Every single one of them received Citizenship the end of OSUT, and they all were given help with filing the paperwork etc. One of them switched to an 18X contract, passed selection and is now in the SF pipeline. There are a wealth of non citizen jobs out there, and you will get Citizenship by the end of Basic.
              Thats great, you are still signing a contract for a non citizen job before you attend anything. While switching jobs ias always a possibility, it is never a guarantee. Furthermore, it is a very different scenario to switch to a Special Forces contract then other MOS's....especially if you are active component.

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              • #22
                Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

                Many thanks for your explanations. Ok, it seems that I should forget about jobs connected with languages. I am thinking now about two opportunities:

                1) Administrative field - Financial Technician (36b if I'm not mistaken). As far as I found out, this job does not require clearance, at least I did not find any indications. Is this really so? It's in my direct line, actually, so I could try it. On the other hand, I am very doubtful because I do not want to be laughed at, and at least in Russian army all these administrative specialists are not respected. I don't know how they are treated in the American Army. Most likely the same. And I do not want to be jeered at.
                2) Mechanic - very interesting for me, I have definite flair for all this sort of stuff, but: as I learned from salary reports, the highest income they can count on in the civilian life is around $ 40000 / year, maybe a bit more. It's not very little, but definitely NOT MUCH, and there are NO PROMOTION OPPORTUNITIES, as opposed to a Financial specialist - a clerk can grow to a supervisor, a manager, etc. At least, I don't see any way of career and professional growth in the Mechanic (Diesel Mechanic) profession. Any thoughts? Maybe I don't know something?

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                • #23
                  Re: Choosing the MOS - various thoughts, seeking advice from experienced people

                  Originally posted by SteveLord View Post
                  Still need to be a permanent resident with a green card.
                  I am. I have my Green Card.

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