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  • New Army Camo update

    Direct from the Sergeant Major of the Army.

    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...2887570&rank=1

  • #2
    Perhaps the Army is about to make a good, sensible and smart decision.

    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...2887570&rank=1

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    • #3
      How long until the Marines cross their army and say "you aren't getting our special pattern" again? I recall reading a while ago that they were absolutely unwilling to let any other service use their pattern.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jaydez View Post
        How long until the Marines cross their army and say "you aren't getting our special pattern" again? I recall reading a while ago that they were absolutely unwilling to let any other service use their pattern.
        I would expect them to do the immature thing when it comes to MARPAT. I would much rather have the Navy's AOR 1 and 2 pattern along with the AOR transitional they developed over MARPAT. AOR outperforms it and is already in service. The Navy won't make such a stink about it and the Marines couldn't do anything about it. The AOR transitional performs as well as multicam does in transitional environments. Word on the street is the MC is trying to develop a transitional MARPAT.

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        • #5
          Well the testing starts this month, so let us see what happens.

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          • #6
            Recent Armytimes article. Now they are also testing a digital multicam version.

            http://www.armytimes.com/article/201...ltiCam-pattern

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chief Kemosabe View Post
              Direct from the Sergeant Major of the Army.

              http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...2887570&rank=1
              24 million is chump change when you look at the bigger picture. Adopting MultiCam is the only thing that makes fiscal sense and it is the best pattern out there according to science. If the Army buys the rights then they also get the arid and tropical variants too. Of course the most logical option is not the one the Army wants to make.

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            • #8
              I comment on SSD under the same screen name

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              • #9
                I guess multicam was too expensive for the Army to procure

                http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...2887570&rank=8

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                • Explosive Hazard
                  Explosive Hazard commented
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                  That is complete bullshit. The Army is just mad they didn't invent MultiCam and will find any excuse not adopt it. The Army makes money anytime someone wants to make gear or clothing in UCP but they wont get that with MultiCam. They should have bought the Phase IV winner and made the announcement before Oct 13, then all of this would have been avoided and we would all have a better family of patterns to choose from. ANY of the 4 finalists would have been great to have. But no, we will repeat the UCP fiasco all over again.

                  Actually, had the Army adopted Desert over Brush in 2004 seeing as it was the winner we wouldn't be in this mess at all! Why is there so much incompetence with our top brass!?

              • #10
                Article about the individual that is leading the Army camo change.

                http://soldiersystems.net/2014/03/25...rge-army-camo/

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                • #11
                  I hope this fiasco picks up steam outside of military circles. If a major news organization catches wind and puts the story on evening news THEN we might see a hasty resection to get us back on track to an effective camo pattern. Until then I have a feeling our top Army brass just sees this as soldiers bitching, meanwhile all they focus on is chasing that next star. If only congress could step in and force the Army to adopt the phase IV winner. I'm not a big fan of congress or the late Senator Murtha but he was directly responsible for pressuring the Army to issue us MultCam in Afghanistan.

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                  • #12
                    Well the whole fiasco on cost caused a firestorm and Crye probably bit the hand that fed him and their article did not help as well. It just pissed big Army off.

                    I rather see us go with a digital version of Multicam or just start printing AOR on our ACU. It is really a no brainer and the delay is obvious due to fiscal reasons. They think money will be different in the next fiscal year or two. Other nations are adopting multicam left and right and maybe the Army does not want a permanent uniform that resembles what European nations are now wearing.

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by Chief Kemosabe View Post
                      Well the whole fiasco on cost caused a firestorm and Crye probably bit the hand that fed him and their article did not help as well. It just pissed big Army off.

                      I rather see us go with a digital version of Multicam or just start printing AOR on our ACU. It is really a no brainer and the delay is obvious due to fiscal reasons. They think money will be different in the next fiscal year or two. Other nations are adopting multicam left and right and maybe the Army does not want a permanent uniform that resembles what European nations are now wearing.
                      Before Crye put out a statement the Army seemed pretty set on NOT adopting MultiCam in any situation. Its sad, had they just announced phase IV and adopted the winner or even runner up then we wouldn't be in this mess. Oh well. AOR 1 and 2 are great patterns in their respective environments, effective enough that 1st SFOD uses AOR 1. For transitional though........ I'm curious how the Army is going to get 7 different colors on the UCP screens since they are set up for 4 colors. Assuming of course they even use the UCP screens.

                      But even beyond that, the Army is spending money to create and test a new pattern. Even if it performs well they have to convince the other branches to adopt the pattern in order for us to have it. I honestly think it would be easier to convince all the branches to adopt the winner of phase IV since it was the most comprehensive camo test ever conducted and the winner of that test is the most advanced and effective family of patterns available. I can't wait to see how the Army's DTP stacks up against any phase IV finalist. Maybe we will all be surprised and the Army will create something even better..............LMFAO!

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                      • #14
                        And the next round of testing starts http://kitup.military.com/2014/04/ar...2887570&rank=2

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                        • #15
                          Explosive, I saw your post here. http://soldiersystems.net/2014/05/08...camouflage-is/ Hopefully, a real announcement will be made soon.

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