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  • #16
    Re: Attendance Regs

    They have covered it, through regulations. 1SG, you’re making it harder than it has to be, the vast majority of your issues can be handled through administrative actions.

    Why are you going to send police to the Soldier’s house? You don’t even do that on active duty (oh and if the MPs do, they just turn them over to the unit). If you’re to that point, just wait until he misses two more drills in the year and chapter him.

    Get your commander involved, find out what your higher S-1 will and will not support. It may be in the reg but they may not support it or they may have added more conditions to it.

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    • #17
      Re: Attendance Regs

      Originally posted by RedLeg View Post
      They have covered it, through regulations. 1SG, you’re making it harder than it has to be, the vast majority of your issues can be handled through administrative actions.

      Why are you going to send police to the Soldier’s house? You don’t even do that on active duty (oh and if the MPs do, they just turn them over to the unit). If you’re to that point, just wait until he misses two more drills in the year and chapter him.

      Get your commander involved, find out what your higher S-1 will and will not support. It may be in the reg but they may not support it or they may have added more conditions to it.
      Army regulations do not cover state law, although not really needed...I agree that administrative regulations are the way to go. Also that he is over thinking it, But do understand, some states use the fuzz and the county jail.
      Last edited by Mr.Incognito; June 8th, 2013, 12:39 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Attendance Regs

        1SG, you can probably find some of your answers by looking into your states annotated codes under the military section. It will address some of you questions. Example: google Tennessee Annotated Code, Kentucky Annotaed Code, etc.

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        • #19
          What is the punishment for a Solider that misses Annual Training and or Regular drills? I am in the NJ guard and we had a few guys not just show up for months and I hear that all that happens to them is then Give them a General Discharge ? Is there true I am not sure how every unit or state works but here in NJ there guys go awol and nothing happens..

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          • #20
            AR 135-91 Chapter 4 Section III 4-12 to 4-17 deals with unexcused absences
            Chapter 6 deals with Enforcement


            Soldiers will be charged with unsatisfactory participation when without proper authority they— (1) Accrue in any one-year period a total of nine or more unexcused absences

            4–-16. Unexcused absence from annual training
            a. Unsatisfactory participation. Soldiers are unsatisfactory participants if without proper authority they fail to attend or complete the entire period of active duty. This applies to a soldier of a unit or USAR Control Group active duty.
            b. Determination of unexcused absence from ACTIVE DUTY.
            (1) The unit commander, commander of the proponent IMA organization, or Cdr, HRC-St. Louis, as appropriate, will determine if the soldier—
            (a) Was notified in enough time to comply with orders and whether there were compelling or emergency reasons for being absent.
            (b) Was aware of the training termination date and whether there were compelling or emergency reasons for being absent.
            (2) Actions to be taken against a soldier absent without leave (AWOL) during the Active Duty period will be at the discretion of the commander. It will be based on the number of days absent and the soldier’s attendance and manner of performance during the regular inactive duty training (IDT)s year. A soldier present on the reporting and ending dates of AT orders who was AWOL for 1 or more days during the active duty period may be—
            (a) Declared an unsatisfactory participant and subject to reassignment/transfer to the IRR.
            (b) Retained on active duty for punitive action under paragraph 10, Manual for Courts Martial/State Code.
            (c) Administered nonjudicial punishment per UCMJ, Art 15.

            4–17. Unauthorized absence from initial active duty for training.
            Action will be taken per AR 630–10 and UCMJ if an officer or enlisted ARNG or USAR soldier—
            a. Fails to comply with orders.
            b. After reporting for duty, is AWOL.


            6–2. Unsatisfactory participation enforcement procedures
            When it has been determined that an ARNGUS or USAR officer or enlisted soldier is an unsatisfactory participant per chapter 4, the immediate commander will initiate proceedings that result in the reassignment, transfer, or separation of the unsatisfactory participant as prescribed in this paragraph. These proceedings are applicable when the unsatisfactory participant is—
            a. An enlisted soldier assigned to an ARNGUS or USAR unit or an IMA duty position, then-
            (1) If the commander determines the soldier has potential for useful service under mobilization, the soldier will be processed under one of the following:
            (a) Discharge from the ARNGUS and transfer to the IRR per NGR 600–200, paragraph 8–27g. The commander may also consider grade reduction per NGR 600–200, paragraph 6–44a(1)(f).
            (b) Reassignment to the IRR from a USAR TPU or IMA duty position per AR 140–10, paragraph 4–15. The commander may also consider grade reduction per AR 140–158, paragraph 7–10.1.
            (2) If the commander determines the soldier has no potential for useful service under mobilization, the soldier will be processed for discharge from Reserve of the Army status per AR 135–178, chapter 13.

            Last edited by AWeisenberger; April 14th, 2014, 01:58 PM.

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