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    I enlisted as 11b. I'm an e4 because of my degree. I just got my cac and it specifies that i'm a cpl not a spc. I know they're both e4 but whats the difference between the two?

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    I think it may be an error but check with your recruiter. I never saw someone who enlisted as an E-4 due to their degree, get Corporal. One is a junior Non-Commissioned Officer (Corporal) and the Specialist is not.

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    • #3
      Re: Cpl or Spc?

      Originally posted by Chief Kemosabe View Post
      I think it may be an error but check with your recruiter. I never saw someone who enlisted as an E-4 due to their degree, get Corporal. One is a junior Non-Commissioned Officer (Corporal) and the Specialist is not.
      You only get Corporal when your unit actually awards it to you. Like Chief said, probably an error. Even now, it's rare to see a CPL. You're just a specialist =).

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        Re: Cpl or Spc?

        Originally posted by BP11b View Post
        I enlisted as 11b. I'm an e4 because of my degree. I just got my cac and it specifies that i'm a cpl not a spc. I know they're both e4 but whats the difference between the two?
        You're a Specialist. The rank on the CAC card doesn't really matter. Some admin puke just types in three characters and they show up. When I was an E3 my rank was "PVT" on my CAC.

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        • #5
          Re: Cpl or Spc?

          Thanks for the replies. I thought it may be an error but wasn't sure.

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          • #6
            Re: Cpl or Spc?

            The default for the program that you use to create that card for E4 is cpl. When someone is promoted from PFC to SPC if someone doesnt manually change it, it is CPL. You usually remember to change the drop-down before printing the card, but it happens.

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            • #7
              Re: Cpl or Spc?

              Originally posted by WIBecky74 View Post
              The default for the program that you use to create that card for E4 is cpl. When someone is promoted from PFC to SPC if someone doesnt manually change it, it is CPL. You usually remember to change the drop-down before printing the card, but it happens.
              Is the program called RAPIDS?

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              • #8
                Re: Cpl or Spc?

                yep

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                • #9
                  Re: Cpl or Spc?

                  Originally posted by BP11b View Post
                  I enlisted as 11b. I'm an e4 because of my degree. I just got my cac and it specifies that i'm a cpl not a spc. I know they're both e4 but whats the difference between the two?
                  Oh, oh! Please let me answer this question.

                  It's a joke--A bloody joke the DOD likes to play on us lowly E4 blokes. Sorry, I've been watching Top Gear all afternoon.

                  Anyways, for some reason every piece of mail I get has CPL splattered all over it.

                  What's the difference between a SPC and a CPL?

                  One CPL put it to me like this: When you're a CPL everybody E5 and up ignores you when you're put in charge of overseeing a project.

                  In my unit it really doesn't matter what rank you are. Funny situations happen like watching a PFC crack on a Staff Sergeant or an SPC shooting the breeze with a SFC while watching an E5 sweep and mop a conference room. It's crazy--it's not situations like being tested to your limits in BCT and AIT that try your 'military bearing'. It's being in a unit where everyone is laid back and basically ignore each others rank that tests your military bearing. No disrespect, though. The unit knows how to handle business when the situation calls for it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cpl or Spc?

                    Originally posted by VICEROY06 View Post
                    Oh, oh! Please let me answer this question.

                    It's a joke--A bloody joke the DOD likes to play on us lowly E4 blokes. Sorry, I've been watching Top Gear all afternoon.

                    Anyways, for some reason every piece of mail I get has CPL splattered all over it.

                    What's the difference between a SPC and a CPL?

                    One CPL put it to me like this: When you're a CPL everybody E5 and up ignores you when you're put in charge of overseeing a project.

                    In my unit it really doesn't matter what rank you are. Funny situations happen like watching a PFC crack on a Staff Sergeant or an SPC shooting the breeze with a SFC while watching an E5 sweep and mop a conference room. It's crazy--it's not situations like being tested to your limits in BCT and AIT that try your 'military bearing'. It's being in a unit where everyone is laid back and basically ignore each others rank that tests your military bearing. No disrespect, though. The unit knows how to handle business when the situation calls for it.
                    Thanks vice. That actually sounds more along the lines of what I'm interested in. Being new to this probably has me antsy over ranks and whatnot. I've heard ranks don't matter as much in infantry units as it might in others. Then again I could be completely wrong. Ah well, guess I'll find out this summer.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Cpl or Spc?

                      Originally posted by BP11b View Post
                      Thanks vice. That actually sounds more along the lines of what I'm interested in. Being new to this probably has me antsy over ranks and whatnot. I've heard ranks don't matter as much in infantry units as it might in others. Then again I could be completely wrong. Ah well, guess I'll find out this summer.
                      I beg to differ.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cpl or Spc?

                        Originally posted by BP11b View Post
                        Thanks vice. That actually sounds more along the lines of what I'm interested in. Being new to this probably has me antsy over ranks and whatnot. I've heard ranks don't matter as much in infantry units as it might in others. Then again I could be completely wrong. Ah well, guess I'll find out this summer.
                        You just have to be ready for whatever you encounter in your future unit and ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. Each unit is different. My unit is so laid back an E2 could fall asleep in the middle of a workshop headed by a 1LT and the worst that would happen is the guy would throw a book at him. However, there are other units that I won't mention on the internet that are brass heavy and will eat you alive if you don't salute the right way.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Chief Kemosabe View Post
                          I beg to differ.
                          CK, just what i heard. No digs on anybody. May have been unit specific too.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by VICEROY06 View Post
                            In my unit it really doesn't matter what rank you are. Funny situations happen like watching a PFC crack on a Staff Sergeant or an SPC shooting the breeze with a SFC while watching an E5 sweep and mop a conference room. It's crazy--it's not situations like being tested to your limits in BCT and AIT that try your 'military bearing'. It's being in a unit where everyone is laid back and basically ignore each others rank that tests your military bearing. No disrespect, though. The unit knows how to handle business when the situation calls for it.
                            If this is true then Im in for one hell of an adjustment. You will NEVER see this type of BS in the Marines. I guess Ill find out when I check in, pretty wierd going from NCO to NON-NCO as an E-4.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Cpl or Spc?

                              Originally posted by 32SCRINF0709 View Post
                              You only get Corporal when your unit actually awards it to you. Like Chief said, probably an error. Even now, it's rare to see a CPL. You're just a specialist =).
                              lol....I lost it when I saw these 2 words in the same sentence.
                              Last edited by SteveLord; February 4th, 2013, 09:58 PM.

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