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  • If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

    Since it is such a ridiculously popular question here, and everyone thinks you can just do it "after six months" I thought I would post the most current prior service business rules for the Active Army. This is the most current set as of May 2012. As you can see....it won't be easy. Good Luck.


    1. This is an immediate message and requires dissemination to all recruiting

    personnel.



    2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication unless sooner

    rescinded or superseded.



    3. References:



    a. Army Regulation 601-210, Active and Reserve Component Enlistment

    Program, dated 8 February 2011 (with Operational changes), dated 14 June 2011.



    b. Department of the Army Memorandum, Prior Service Accessions Business

    Rules for Grade Determinations, dated 24 April 2012.



    c. MILPER Message 12-117, FY13 Enlisted Call to Active Duty Regular Army

    Program, dated 24 April 2012. (Rescinded)



    d. MILPER Message 12-156, FY13 Enlisted Call to Active Duty Regular Army

    Program, dated 21 May 2012.



    e. USAREC message 12-015, Operation Blue to Green Enlistment Program,

    dated 20 October 2011.



    f. USAREC message 12-140, Prior Service (PS) enlistments into the

    Regular Army (RA), dated 15 February 2012. (Rescinded)



    4. The purpose of this message is to announce new guidance on PS Accession

    Business Rules and Enlisted Call to AD for enlistments into the RA.



    5. Effective Immediately, PS enlistments in all Skill Levels, to include

    Soldiers from Sister Services applying for the Blue to Green (B2G) Program, are

    restricted by critical MOS exception according to Human Resource Command (HRC)

    Accessions Business Rules. This policy does not affect those PS already in

    Delayed Status (DS). Reductions in pay grade will NOT be favorably considered,

    no exceptions.



    6. This policy affects all Days of Service (DOS) Soldiers in pay grades E-1 thru

    E-4. Applicants with 179 days or less on Active Duty are considered DOS.

    Applicants who never shipped to training and have ZERO days of service may apply

    for an exception to policy thru Enlistment Eligibility and Processing Division.

    Guidance Counselors (GC) MUST call the Recruiting Operations Center (ROC) for all

    DOS/Glossary Non Prior Service reservations.



    7. This policy DOES NOT affect Soldiers who are removed from the Temporary

    Disability Retirement List (TDRL). All Soldiers removed from TDRL will have a

    formal electronic grade determination completed IAW AR 601-210, Chapter 5-51f.



    8. The HRC Business Rules will be updated periodically by HRC.



    a. Applicants in grade E-5 and above must submit a formal electronic

    request for grade determination to CG, USAREC IAW with AR 601-210, Chapter 3-17.



    b. If applicant is MOS qualified in an MOS listed for his/her pay grade in

    paragraph 10a; approval will be granted in his/her grade in current PMOS.



    c. If applicant is not MOS qualified for a MOS listed for his/her pay grade

    in paragraph 10a, then grade will be approved to retrain in an MOS listed in

    paragraph 10b for his/her pay grade if training is available.



    d. GCs must ensure those applicants who indicate family member(s) that may

    fall under the Exceptional Family Membership Program (EFMP) are identified to the

    ROC prior to a reservation being pulled.



    e. Applicants in pay grade E-4 and above who hold MOS 09L, 18B, 18C, 18D,

    18E, 18F, 42R, 42S, 46Q and 46R can request an exception to the Business Rules.

    Send exception request thru GCR as a grade determination. Exceptions are not

    always favorably considered.



    NOTE on MOS 09L; 09L E5s and above that speak a language(s) outside of Farsi,

    Dari or Pashtu could possibly reenter as an 09L as there is a shortage of skill

    level 2 and 3 Soldiers. Additionally, 09Ls in any grade should meet the

    qualifications for 35P under ACASP. If reclassification into MOS 35P is desired

    a DLPT score of 2/2 is required and must accompany the grade determination

    workflow. If approved, applicants will have to attend 35P AIT at Goodfellow AFB.



    9. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy

    listed in paragraph 10a below, and there are no retraining vacancies in current

    grade listed in paragraph 10b below, request for grade determination for the

    purpose of enlistment in the RA will not be favorably considered due to lack of

    vacancies in MOS and grade.



    10. Accession date for all PS/DOS who enlist for primary option 18 (US Army

    First Assignment Only) will be RSM December 2012, unless otherwise directed by

    the ROC. The following vacancies are available provided the applicant is

    otherwise qualified.



    a. Vacancies by grade and MOS (changes based on the needs of the Army):



    (1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 09L, 11B, 12D, 12M, 12W, 13B, 13D, 13F, 13R,

    14E, 14G, 14T, 15N, 15Q, 15T, 15U, 25V, 31D, 35N, 35P (language dependent), 35S,

    56M, 68D, 68K, 68M, 68P, 68Q, 68S, 68T, 88L, 89D, 91B, 91F (see note below), 92A,

    92R or 94H.



    (2) Grade E-5 - 09L, 11B, 12D, 12M, 12N, 12W, 13B, 13D, 13F, 13R, 14E,

    14G, 14T, 15N, 15Q, 15T, 15U, 15W, 25V, 31B, 31D, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35N, 35P

    (language dependent), 35S, 46R, 56M, 68D, 68K, 68M, 68P, 68Q, 68R, 68S, 68T, 68X,

    88L, 89D, 91B, 91F (see note below), 92A, 92R or 94H.



    (3) Grade E-6 - 12D, 14E, 14G, 14T, 15Q, 15W, 18B, 18C, 18D, 31B, 35F,

    35G, 35L, 35N, 35P (language dependent), 35S, 37F, 38B, 56M, 68D, 68M, 68Q, 68R,

    68V, 79R.



    (4) Grade E-7 - 35P (language dependent).



    (5) Grade E-8 and above - no vacancies.



    NOTE: Prior Service applicants that held PMOS 45B are now MOS qualified in MOS

    91F.



    b. If no vacancy exists, the following MOS will be used for retraining

    (changes monthly based on the needs of the Army):



    (1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 18X.



    (2) Grades E-5 and above - no vacancies.



    c. The following vacancies by grade and MOS are available if already

    AIRBORNE qualified.



    (1) Grades E-1 thru E-4 - 12B, 12N, 13B, 13D, 13F, 13T, 15W, 25B, 25C,

    25M, 25R, 25S, 35F, 35N, 42A, 68W, 88M, 91B, 91D, 91E, 91F, 91G, 92A, 92G or 92Y.



    (2) Grade E-5 - 25C, 25R, 42A, 35F, 74D, 91F, 92A or 92Y.



    11. All applicants who require a grade determination, Prior Service Accession

    Branch (USAREC) will determine the enlistment grade as follows:



    a. Applicant must enlist in the Delayed Status (DS) within 14 days of final

    grade determination. He/she must understand that the vacancies constantly

    change; if the grade determination expires prior to enlisting into the DS, they

    could be subject to disapproval.



    b. If an applicant does not hold the grade and MOS that has an open vacancy

    listed in paragraph 10a above and there are no retraining vacancies in current

    grade listed in paragraph 10b above, he/she will not be granted accession at this

    time. Training opportunities exist for MOSs and grades listed in paragraph l0b

    above, however, training is limited. Administrative reduction is no longer

    authorized to fill a vacancy.



    12. If a renegotiation is approved the DS Soldier may enlist under current HRC

    business rules or the HRC business rules in affect at time of entry in the DS.



    13. All PS/DOS applicants that hold an Additional Skill Identifier (ASI) may

    submit for an exception to policy without regards to the listed MOS vacancies in

    paragraph 10a above. Not all exceptions are favorably considered.



    14. All PS applicants that hold MOS 42R who currently serve in the USAR/ARNG

    in the grades E-4 thru E-6 may compete for active duty vacancies on the USAREC

    Order of Merit List (OML). Maximum AFS for each grade are as follows: 12 years

    for SSG, 8 years for SGT, 4 years for SPC. Send exception request thru GCR as a

    grade determination. Exceptions are not always favorably considered.



    15. All PS/DOS applicants that are proficient in a language, as evidenced by

    DLPT results of 2/2 or higher, will also be considered as exceptions to policy

    and maybe qualified for 35P ACASP. Language ability must not have been obtained

    by DLI attendance. Languages that will be considered are Arabic (any dialect),

    Farsi, Dari, Pashtu, Chinese, Spanish, French, Russian, Tagalog, Hebrew,

    Indonesian, Serbo-Croatian, Urdu and Korean. Applicants that have approved

    exceptions must successfully complete 35P AIT. Basic training may also be

    required IAW AR 601-210.



    16. Point of contact for this message through your chain of command.



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  • #2
    Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

    Should be a sticky!

    I guess we're tired of answering the same questions because people fail to use the search function.

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    • #3
      Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

      Indeed LT. I have been noticing this too. I will pitch this to the other mods/admins.

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      • #4
        Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

        I JUST posted some of the Officer CAD last night.

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        • #5
          Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

          Originally posted by Mongoose772 View Post
          I JUST posted some of the Officer CAD last night.
          Have you noticed that the people who keep asking this question tend to be illiterate as well? They can't read!

          No better example than this: http://www.nationalguard.com/forums/...uard-to-Active

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          • #6
            Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

            Just for clarification, this means you have to HOLD the MOS to possibly be selected to transfer.

            You can't be a 92Y and ask to reclass to 11B to get it. Or that's what I have been hearing.

            Clarify?

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            • #7
              Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

              Originally posted by Mr_Loki View Post
              Just for clarification, this means you have to HOLD the MOS to possibly be selected to transfer.

              You can't be a 92Y and ask to reclass to 11B to get it. Or that's what I have been hearing.

              Clarify?
              That is correct. The only retraining option is for E-4 and below, and it is only for a Special Forces contract.

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              • #8
                Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

                I transferred from NG to AD back in 2003. Anyone on this forum besides me was able to do this since then?

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                • #9
                  Re: If you "want to go Active Duty"..you need to read this

                  Originally posted by fmcityslicker View Post
                  I transferred from NG to AD back in 2003. Anyone on this forum besides me was able to do this since then?
                  There were many that have done it becuase prior to April of 2009 you could seemlesly transfer to Active Duty without a conditional release if you were serving on title 10 somewhere. This ran for a while during the surge timeframe.

                  Times have obviously greatly changed.

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