Uniform at RSP

[Hunter04]

I am curious...are you allowed to wear the unit that you will be assigned to Unit patch at RSP? I know that you are NOT allowed to do that at BCT/AIT...does the same apply for RSP?

[Schramek]

I've heard different things. I was told not to at my RSP unit, however there are other people there that wear the patch for the unit they will be assigned to and the NCOs have no problem with it. They've said they don't have a problem with it, so I was going to start wearing mine, but it's changing and I don't have the new one yet.

It could be different from unit to unit, I'm not sure.

I would also like a definite answer to this, if there is one.

[Hunter04]

One of the guys I am going by and picking up in the a.m. went up to our Armory today and was told that we could wear our unit patch....he was making fun of me too b/c I do not have one yet and he picked one up today so he was telling me how good it looked on his uniform...lol....my husband said I should have said yeah but my mosquito wings look better than a blank spot in the middle of my chest....lol...we are pumped for our first RSP

[Hunter04]

Went to RSP and YES at this our RSD (Recruit Sustainment Detachment) they DID allow the recruits to wear their unit's patch.

[nationalguardchick1990]

when i went to drill i didn't have my uniform yet all i had was my pt uniform and they told me next time try and have a uniform by next drills

[letzrock]

They should provide YOU with a uniform, not YOU try to have it by next drill.

[SteveLord]

They should provide YOU with a uniform, not YOU try to have it by next drill.

Exactly. The military should provide you with 99% of everything you "need"

Start knockin on supply's door. There is almost no such thing as reimbursement in the guard.

[nationalguardchick1990]

i know my recruiter was at some kind of schooling and i had to go to my first drill (RSP) by myself he left the day i got back for meps and had to be gone for two weeks

[letzrock]

You should be given your uniform by your RSP unit, not your recruiter. You will be issued uniform, patrol cap, shirt, socks, boots, belt, pt gear. I'd check with your RSP NCOIC about those items.

[Anternal]

I went this past weekend, and they issued us BDUs, a battle book, and the RSP guide.....so yea they're supposed to "GIVE" you everthing you need.

[nationalguardchick1990]

they gave me a pt uniform and thats it

[Schramek]

Sometimes it takes a while for you to get your stuff, don't worry if you don't have it the first few drills. Just take a comfortable, non-scruffy pair of civies with you next drill to change into after PT. You don't want to be wearing your PTs around all day, it neither looks good nor smells any better ;)

When I enlisted, I was never issued a set of ACUs or PTs are RSP, I'm sure it was because I was a quick ship and they knew I'd be getting it soon anyway. This past weekend at drill there was a table with a bunch of uniforms on them, and whoever didn't have a uniform yet was told to get in line. Not sure how it turned out, how many got them, etc, because we were too busy teaching new guys DnC, but I know quite a few more people had ACUs on shortly after :P

[nationalguardchick1990]

yeah i took other clothes some of the others didn't know and had to wear pt all day they didn't smell to good :p yeah if you ship put in one or two months they don't give you any but i don't ship out till may of 2008 so i have a while before bct.

[Hunter04]

No, I didn't get anything either..I am sure it is b/c of shipping out so soon...I went out and bought mine...that is how I broke it to my family, showed up in uniform at their door :eek: ....but at RSP I didn't even get any kind of books or anything like that either. :confused: little concerned with that since there is suppose to be info in there that we are suppose to know before we ship.

[Schramek]

Well, you aren't "required" to know anything, it just helps tremendously, regardless you will be fine.

[RLO]

I've had three RSP drills and don't have a uniform yet either - but my squad leader said since I was one of only two people in the whole group who didn't have one he'd push for it. So I wouldn't think too much of it.

[letzrock]

I was in RSP for 3 months. I went on first drill and got most of the items I listed earlier. I'm prior service so no BCT for me. I was issued 2 set's of ACU's on my last drill. That's all I got. They said I'll be issued the rest of my stuff when I arrive at AIT. Guess diffrent states operate diffrently.

[dancersoldier]

No, I didn't get anything either..I am sure it is b/c of shipping out so soon...I went out and bought mine...that is how I broke it to my family, showed up in uniform at their door :eek: ....but at RSP I didn't even get any kind of books or anything like that either. :confused: little concerned with that since there is suppose to be info in there that we are suppose to know before we ship.


how'd your family take that? my sisters know that i'm enlisted, but my parents don't know what i am actually enlisted. I'm trying to think of the best and most creative way to tell them.

[PFC Lowe]

how'd your family take that? my sisters know that i'm enlisted, but my parents don't know what i am actually enlisted. I'm trying to think of the best and most creative way to tell them.


Sitting them down and talking with them did it for me. I talked to my mom before I enlsited though. Just relax and explain the reasons for what you are doing, but don't expect them to understand at first. Also, do not go in blindfolded. Have as much information as possible and be prepared for questions.

No one in my RSP has ACU's or BDU's except for those who have been to BCT. Now that I think about it, no one has PT uniforms either.

[Hunter04]

how'd your family take that? my sisters know that i'm enlisted, but my parents don't know what i am actually enlisted. I'm trying to think of the best and most creative way to tell them.



I let my dad's side of the family know...well I should say my stepmom and little brother who is enlisted also....but as for my mother's side I did not let them know b/c I did not want any drama from my mother while I was trying to enlist. I am older - 37 - and have never had a close relationship with her. So this is my choice not hers or anyone elses..well except my husband who stood behind me all the way.

But all in all my mom didn't take it to bad. She cried a little but I gave them a little fib that with my MOS there was no way that I would be anywhere but in a hospital ;)

[Schramek]

There are hospitals in combat zones ;) MOS is irrelevant, pretty sure there was a solder with a finance MOS that was killed in the past few years. Regardless, the chances still aren't that high of dying, as was pointed out in another thread.

[Hunter04]

There are hospitals in combat zones ;) MOS is irrelevant, pretty sure there was a solder with a finance MOS that was killed in the past few years. Regardless, the chances still aren't that high of dying, as was pointed out in another thread.


I know this ... you know this...but they are not aware of it. Of course my little brother understands and I have an uncle who just retired out who understands also....but as for my mother and worried little sisters are on a need to know basis and there are somethings that are better left unsaid until that time may come. When they think of hospital over there they do not look at it the way we know it to be.

[Schramek]

Roger that, it makes sense.

[dancersoldier]

I let my dad's side of the family know...well I should say my stepmom and little brother who is enlisted also....but as for my mother's side I did not let them know b/c I did not want any drama from my mother while I was trying to enlist. I am older - 37 - and have never had a close relationship with her. So this is my choice not hers or anyone elses..well except my husband who stood behind me all the way.

But all in all my mom didn't take it to bad. She cried a little but I gave them a little fib that with my MOS there was no way that I would be anywhere but in a hospital ;)



Yeah, i don't think my parents will be to excited about me being enlisted for 6 years, but i wanted the $$ so yeah.
i'm excited for my first RSP (er, RSB). i'm so glad the guard has that program! now all i need is a workout buddy.

[DEMO]

I can't wait to start RSP. Get some gear and will be very proud to wear my 21B patch.

[WIBecky74]

In my RSP we could wear our unit patch, most wore the RSP one, not the one from their unit they are assigned to after initial training. In basic you wear your rank but not unit patch. In my Ait we were allowed to wear our unit patch.

[PFC Lowe]

I can't wait to start RSP. Get some gear and will be very proud to wear my 21B patch.

MOS' don't have specific patches, your unit may or may not though.

[Travis24]

I had a recruiter tell me that the *cool* thing about being in the National Guard was that since you're already assigned to a unit and on payed drilling status before going to Basic, that I'd be allowed to wear my state's SSI and my rank at basic. I kind of hoped he was wrong or lying about that. Or at least if he was telling the truth that I wouldn't be required to wear rank and unit patches. Seemed to me to be a good way to stick out in a very bad way.


If you are an 11B at Benning you won't be wearing any unit patches. Thats a guarantee. You will wear rank. Being a specialist sucks because you MAY get singled out, but you also TEND to get more leadership experience. I only highlighted MAY and TEND because thats from what I saw personally/heard from others and can't say its across the board.

[jgraham27]

I was very lucky to receive my uniform on this sunday, my 2nd day of my frist RSP weekend. There were some people there that had been waiting for theirs for months, although mine was lacking a belt and a cap. I got the cap out of someone elses that was not going to be in anymore. As far as the patch, I drill with the 278th in Knxoville, and I got their patch, I'm supossed to be in a unit at a different location though so I'm not sure if I'll get a different patch or not. Everyone at my RSP wears all their patches as far as I know though.

[DEMO]

yeah my RSP its different. Some have the keystone patch and others dont. I believe they are infantry with the 28th div. I'm almost positive about that. yeah the uniforms are nice and the boots fit well. I think only 2 ppl had problems with their uniforms.

[r4d4r]

I had a recruiter tell me that the *cool* thing about being in the National Guard was that since you're already assigned to a unit and on payed drilling status before going to Basic, that I'd be allowed to wear my state's SSI and my rank at basic. I kind of hoped he was wrong or lying about that. Or at least if he was telling the truth that I wouldn't be required to wear rank and unit patches. Seemed to me to be a good way to stick out in a very bad way.

ye i wouldnt want to be able to wear rank at BCT with me being an e-3 because of jrotc cuz then the di will ride you harder and expect more out of you

[Pvt Merkel]

Only thing at RSP i never got because they didn't have one that fit was a PC. I got one myself for 10 bucks so no big loss for me.They told me when I got issued my ACU's that my name tapes would take 2 or 3 months give or take so I just ended up buying my own online.

[shutterm4]

ye i wouldnt want to be able to wear rank at BCT with me being an e-3 because of jrotc cuz then the di will ride you harder and expect more out of you

At my BCT. Rank didnt matter, no one in my platoon got any extra duties because of it. My PG was an e-2, i was an e-1 and was a squad leader. If anything you should want some extra responsibility because you will come into rank sooner then an e-1.

[pvt_colvin]

at my MN RSP company we are allowed to wear our unit patches and everything like that, they are really lax on things like that, we are even authorized to wear it, our ACU's, while not at the armoury. i guess it depends on your unit.

[WIBecky74]

You do mean to and from RSP Drill, correct? Otherwise, it doesnt matter who authorized it, there is an Army Regulation (AR) that overrides that 'permission' that says you cannot. Of course you always go by the last order given, and ten NCO's and Officers could give you ten different orders (directions) but its that last one that does it you listen to. With that said, someone that did not give you permission, sees you in that uniform during unauthorized times, will see to it you realize it was wrong.

[pvt_colvin]

i did not realize, thank you. in my opinion its all confusing

[joshua1991]

i was given my ACU three days after i enlisted, but i had to wait another two weeks for my boots, PC, name tapes ,socks, duffle bag, and PT gear

[shutterm4]

i was given my ACU three days after i enlisted, but i had to wait another two weeks for my boots, PC, name tapes ,socks, duffle bag, and PT gear

Yes, but that doesn't mean you can wear them for the hell of it

[WIBecky74]

Seriously, jeans make your butt look better anyways.

[GutshotStraight]

ye i wouldnt want to be able to wear rank at BCT with me being an e-3 because of jrotc cuz then the di will ride you harder and expect more out of you

Shouldn't they expect more out of you? I will be E3 at BCT as well which I am not concerned about- but I did joke with my recruiter and ask him how much s**t I would get as an O9S enlistee. :eek: LOL

James

[WO1 Quinones]

there is no rank for 09S enlistee so just stay low and dont bring it up lol.

[WIBecky74]

Our OCS Canidate (one of three) was 42 years old in BCT. She wore the SPC patch because of degrees. She got alot of ribbing. ALOT. You have to have broad shoulders for that. DS's had an issue with her being older along with outranking them once done with school. She handled it very well. Ended up with a bad knee injury and set back a week in BCT to do the last FTX.. I was still there in Ait when she graduated. She had about a month and a half until OCS. I havent talked to her in a little while now, but when she came home she found out the injury was worse than diagnosed at BCT. Last I heard she was drilling at her MP unit and learning alot on the Officer side, waiting to see if she would heal or not to attend OCS. You just have to take it with a grain of salt. Looking back, sure the DS's did have a little against her personally, but it was also to see how she would handle the stress. Save yourself some headache and start learning the Officers Creed. She was given that assignment during Bct. We stayed up many of nights learning that thing. Otherwise we would be sent to the back of the chow line (too bad if a company came in after us, it was behind them too) and given like a minute to eat. lol