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_Questions22_
July 12th, 2006, 09:41 PM
I'm new to this forum and I was wondering if someone could help me? I am trying to choose between 4 different MOS's ( 91W, 21B, 15T, and 15R). I have a medical background and I would like to do something dealing with combat also. The recruiter is telling me since I have a medical background I should look at obtaining a second skill. Thats where the 15's are coming in. I want something I'll be able use if my plans for medical school fall through. I have no idea what the jobs listed above are really about. I know what the web sites and recruiters are telling me but I would like to here from someone who has worked in these positions before. Thanks!
_Questions22_
July 13th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Ok, I've decided on either 91W or 21B. Does anyone out there have experience in either one of these feilds? If so, what is it like? Is 21B an 11B with demo? I have a medical background so would it be smart to stick with 91W or try something new? I know its my decision but some input on the MOS's would help. Thanks!
Doc
July 17th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Ok, I've decided on either 91W or 21B. Does anyone out there have experience in either one of these feilds? If so, what is it like? Is 21B an 11B with demo? I have a medical background so would it be smart to stick with 91W or try something new? I know its my decision but some input on the MOS's would help. Thanks!
There is no better job than medic in the Army! Go Medic, you will not regret it!
What is a 21b?
2ndglance
July 18th, 2006, 12:50 AM
21 Bravo is Combat Engineer
_Questions22_
July 20th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Thanks for responding. I am still having trouble choosing an MOS. Simply due to the length of the contract (6 Yrs). Thats a long time to do something you don't enjoy. Thats why I was wondering if anyone could give me some indepth info on the jobs. If there is anyone out there I would like to here from you. Thank You again.
Shawn F.
July 20th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Combat Engineering was something I was looking into. I am joining as well and stuck between a few as well. Where at in NC are you located? Anywhere near Charlotte?
_Questions22_
July 23rd, 2006, 07:11 PM
I live near in Winston Salem. Not to far. Still Looking at jobs? I am, and getting tired of looking. I refuse to take just any old job and I guess I'll keep looking as long as it takes. Later.
Shawn F.
July 23rd, 2006, 07:25 PM
I am with you on that one man. I don't know what the heck to do... I am beginning to think it's not a good idea anymore but I don't know. It's all between 11B, 44B (metal worker) or something around there. I am wondering if they would let me go up to the Infantry unit here in NC to help me decide.
_Questions22_
July 24th, 2006, 03:38 AM
I had it all figured out until a guy I know told me that this was my chance to gain a second skill. He said he was a Marine for 8 years and when his contract ran out he got out and went to school for truck repair. He started missing the Military so he joined the Army Guard and he repaired trucks, since he knew what he was doing. So he then told me M-F he repaired trucks and one weekend a month he repaired trucks. After a while he got tired of repairing trucks. So he switched MOS's and is now happy.
I was going for 91W (Medic) until he told me that story. Now I'm all screwed up. I went to a Air Guard unit last week for a peek at what they offered. Its kinda the same but no "College First" programs and the unit I went to deploys ALL OF THE TIME.
I don't know what its like to deploy so I can't say I would mind it but I can say I don't want to leave my family. My family doesn't want me to either but its part of the experience. I can just about bet no one in the Military wants to leave there families but if everyone stayed home who would protect the counrty? Who would take care of the next New Orleans or the US conflicts? My uncle asked me today, what are we fighting for in Iraq? Bombs, Guns, to free the people? If its the poeple, when will we know when they are free and what then? I couldn't give him a answer but its questions like these that are making it hard. One half of me wants to go to MEPS tomorrow and the other half is wondering if its good idea. I want the school benifits but I can take a loan out too. See, its a never ending battle. There is always an answer and another question. All I can say is good luck, I know I'll need it, and let me know what you do.
Shawn F.
July 24th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Man I am in the EXACT same boat as you! I am stuck between Infantry, Military Police or Metalworker... I want Infantry but then again I don't want to be sent out and then again I never been so I don't know. I feel that if I do this and get sent out then I am leaving everything here behind like my school, drumming, my job which is building hot rods which is what I really like to do. Then again, you think about it... It's only 3 years, that will go by quick. They say you will be sent out for only one year but I think they are lying. I have talked to some guys and they said they were gone for just about 2 years! I'd like some answers to this. I go to take the ASVAB tomarrow and the recruiter is trying to get me to go to MEPS on Friday.
TRUEBLUE4LIFE
July 25th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Shawn F and Question22....
What do you enjoy doing? what can you see yourself doing? and what are you good at ? belive me I went thru the same thing. I like the birds..anything that had to do with flying ! was for me. I checked where there was the most room to move up the ladder (E-1 THRU E-9) my mos is Avaition ops specialist. I like to go to OCS school after bct and ait. I had the chance to see my coworkers in action saturday morning. It was the best. Maybe you could go to your future unit on any given saturday and see some things in action and maybe have your recuriter give you a tour of your future unit to see how things operate and maybe see something that interest you. It can only help.
Shawn F.
July 25th, 2006, 10:50 PM
I enjoy music such as drumming and recording studio work, working on hot rods and into motorcycles. That's pretty much it. I am thinking Infantry or Aircraft Structural Repair. But thing is, I don't know all about the Aircraft Structural Repair besides just whats on goarmy.com and they might not even have a unit for that here in NC.... :confused: If I did infantry then I would try and do airborne school after but then again I don't want to get deployed for a year or two and be away from school and my job and at the same time I wouldn't mind. I have half of the people telling me that if I do infantry then most likely I will get sent out, the other half say no it doesn't matter... :confused:
Echo
July 26th, 2006, 02:27 AM
Hi Shawn,
If you haven't already done so... you may want to take a look at this LINK (http://1800goguard.com/NC/index.php) and scroll thru the units that are in North Carolina in order to get an idea as to which ones are near you. Then at the bottom you'll see the the 20 Critical MOS List (that are in addition to the Top 10 (http://www.1800goguard.com/training/training_moslist.html))
Something you may wish to consider is just how much call there might be in the Guard when it comes to, for example, repairing aircraft structures... you'd definitely get the training for it... but how much of it would you actually get to do??? It's hard to say because it all depends on which unit you join and their "mission" during your tenure there.
It *might* be best to consider 11B for that matter... ? 31B or 21B *might* be good choices for you as well?
One thing about the Top 10 List (besides the BIG bonuses)... is that most units need most of those... Medics, Mechanics, Cooks, Supply... and the troops doin' those jobs... *might* actually have something to do that pertains to their MOS training most of the time... whether they're at a home drill or deployed to Iraq.
It's also good to remember... that for the most part... all the "jobs" pay the same! ;^)
As for your drummin'... how 'bout lookin' into joinin' the 440TH ARMY BAND (http://bands.army.mil/bands/ng/default.asp?unitname=440AB), PO BOX 2006, MORRISVILLE, 27560????
_Questions22_
July 26th, 2006, 10:36 AM
I'm having trouble due to the fact I work with a Lt. Col. He is my S.O. at work and no I don't work for the military. He is telling me that I should look at ROTC/SMP due to the fact I want to finish school. Not to mention My family wants me to do the same thing in hopes I'll forget about the Military. But I have other guys I work with that are enlisted and they are telling me the best officers were enlisted at some point, and that the things an enlisted soldier sees is something you never forget. My problem is that the enlisted side has better benifits for school but at the same time that is not the only reason I want to join. Its a nice perk but there are other reasons too. If I like the Military I will stay in and go to OCS but if I go to OCS right off the bat it makes every body happy. I know it is my decision but as you can tell I love my family and take what they say to heart (most of the time).
My question is, does the college first program really protect me from deployment? I know it only covers OEF/OIF but will it really cover those or is based on the "Needs of the Military"? Please, don't read into what I'm saying. I will go if called but I would like the chance to finish what I started before that happens. But at the same time I want to do this while I'm still young and don't have a family. If I go in after college as enlisted soldier, would the school benifits cover an advanced degree?
Then there is the job choices. I really wanted to do either combat engineeer, 60 crew cheif, or combat medic. I have never worked in engineering berfore, but I think I would enjoy it, and the 60 job is just plain cool. I have a medical background but I don't know if I really want to do it in the Military world and in my day to day life. I love medicine and everything about helping others but as I said, it might get old and that is the last thing I want to happen since I have spent all 22 years of my life training to be a doctor. See....Hard Choices. It will take time but I'll figure something out. I don't want to put it off to long though. As I said, I won't be young forever and 50 year old Med students don't always fair so well. Thanks for the input and keep them coming.
groundup
July 26th, 2006, 11:14 PM
In my opinion, I think SMP is the best route if you want to become an officer. You will experience enlisted basic training and you will drill as a cadet. You will know what it feels like to be enlisted. With what your friends said about some of the best officers were enlisted first, I'd have to agree with a fair amount of that. Most of my favorite officers have been enlisted prior to being an officer. Like I said, most - that doesn't mean all. You are what you make of yourself. The best officer is the one that listens to his/her Soldiers.
Shawn F.
July 26th, 2006, 11:15 PM
Sorry if I am taking over your thread here man... Anyways, I am in the same boat as him and thinking the same thing about school and having to leave and missing out on things, etc. I read on the band thing but how much do you need to already know to do that? I am thinking of 11B thought but most likely they will send me out doing that am I correct? Thanks a lot for that link too, I have been looking for it for a long time.
Echo
July 27th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Sorry if I am taking over your thread here man... Anyways, I am in the same boat as him and thinking the same thing about school and having to leave and missing out on things, etc. I read on the band thing but how much do you need to already know to do that? I am thinking of 11B thought but most likely they will send me out doing that am I correct? Thanks a lot for that link too, I have been looking for it for a long time.
Unless I'm mistaken... I believe you're replying to my post.
Sure... if you go to a Guard unit as an 11B, you'll probably be assigned to an 11B slot. If you want to be "All You Can Be" and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that... then 11 Bush/Bang Bang *may* be the way to go??? What will you get out of it? Whatever you put into it... the intangible skills you come away with are sure to help you in life... but trying to obtain some sort of technical training *might* be more transferable later on, ie: the aircraft structures school or something similiar... who can really know what the future holds for you???
You've also stated that you like to work on cars. How about 63B-Light Wheel Vehicle Mechanic (http://www.1800goguard.com/mechanic/index.html)??? You'd gain some techical skills, it pays the BIG bonus, most units have 'em, you'd probably have an actual "mission" to perform most of the time... and most importantly... you'd still be a SOLDIER!!!!
If you are interested in giving the band a try... here's the info I have regarding Army Bands (I think your best shot may be to call the band's NCOIC, but I'm pretty sure you have to be able to read music and you'll have to pass an audition)
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/42r.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/acasp/bl02.htm
Shawn F.
July 29th, 2006, 05:09 PM
I appreciate that info Echo... In a way I want to stay away from the whole mechanics thing and do something different since when I get out I will be doing that for a full time living most of my life. As for the Army Band I looked into it and yeah I have to do an audition. I can read music and can do a lot of what they ask for but then there are a few things I saw they require that I can't do such as for percussion to play Samba, Latin and some Jazz... I am working on those things now as I play but they take a few years to learn, it's not just something I can hurry and learn in a few months and then go sign up so that is out of the question. My recruiter said I get NO inlistment bonus with the Aircraft Structural Repair which I don't understand why not. But really I want to do Airborne school so I need to figure out if I can do something else besides infantry and do Airborne school. Now is it true that a unit can only get sent out once every 5 years?
Another thing, my recruiter said I can do only 3 years of serving time but I wont get but half of the bonus or something like that.... I am not deciding on an MOS or nothing based on bonus so please don't think I am getting at that, I am just wondering on this. I want to do 3 years and after that if I decide I want to serve more then I will sign for another 3. But I have no clue if I will even like it so that's why only 3.
Echo
July 29th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Hi Shawn,
If you're really set on Airborne... I would suggest that you really give some consideration to going for the gusto... and go Active Duty for 3 to 4 years... with a possible 11X-Infantry/Airborne/ and perhaps an Option 40 (Ranger Contract) enlistment.
You might be assigned to the 82nd, 173rd... or even the 75th Rangers.
If you love it... great... if you don't you're only in for 3 to 4 but you'd probably be serving with some of the best units in the Army. If you decide to get out, you could likely join the Guard at that time if you wanted to keep your hand in it... but it's usually harder to go from the Guard to AD.
At least you'd know you did "your thing"... understand??? Heck... the way it's going with the Guard... you'd probably wind up deployed for quite awhile as it is.
I've read various reports about the amount of deployments and their lengths... but it all boils down to what Uncle Sam wants... right?
Please scroll down thru these bonuses (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armybonuses/l/blenlistbonus.htm) (that have links to the various MOS pages as well)... and check out the Airborne bonus and the various MOSs links that can have an Airborne bonus included towards the bottom of the page.
This is the section on the bonus page I'm referring to... on the actual page there are hyperlinks for each MOS description page:
A $3,000 Airborne Bonus is authorized to non-prior service applicants who are high school diploma graudates (or GED with at least 15 college credits), who score 50 or greater on the ASVAB, and volunteer for Airborne Training with a guaranteed Airborne assignment. The bonus is authorized for the following MOS's: 11X (with Ranger Contract), 13B, 13D,13R, 15P, 21E, 21J, 25B, 25C, 25D, 25M, 25S, 35A, 37F, 42A, 45B, 52D, 63B, 88M, 92A, 92G, 92Y, 96B, and 97E.
Here's more links that should be of interest to you:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/11x.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armytrng/a/rangernoncombat.htm
Another MOS that you might want to take a look at is 37F-Psychological Operations Specialist... here's a LINK (http://www.1800goguard.com/training/training_comsupport.php) on the Guard site to a video about what they do as well as the link below. The Active Duty Component requires 37F's to be Airborne-qualified... but another reason for bringing it to your attention is the skills you would learn. (They are part of Spec Ops as well)
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/37f.htm
TRUEBLUE4LIFE
July 29th, 2006, 08:26 PM
Echo ..That was Awesome. Well done.
Echo
July 29th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Echo ..That was Awesome. Well done.
Thanks... hopefully it will help Shawn (and anyone else) to try and make the right decision for him.
Obviously none of us have a crystal ball... each person's experiences depend on so many variable factors that all any of us can do is to try and do our best... and hope that everything works out.
One bit of advice... stay out of trouble... by doing the right thing at the right time. :)
Echo
July 30th, 2006, 04:46 AM
I came across the following discussion about 15P's and the like over on another forum that I frequent... thought you (TRUEBLUE) and Shawn might find it of interest:
http://community.armystudyguide.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/8361093521/m/8231073471
TRUEBLUE4LIFE
July 31st, 2006, 07:18 PM
I came across the following discussion about 15P's and the like over on another forum that I frequent... thought you (TRUEBLUE) and Shawn might find it of interest:
http://community.armystudyguide.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/8361093521/m/8231073471
Echo ...Thank you! That was very good. Are you Army and what's your (MOS) Anyway's you always come up with cool information that informs.
Echo
July 31st, 2006, 08:23 PM
No problemo...
I was Regular Army for 3... and then 11 years later I went into the Guard for 7... 41E and then 19E-M48/M60 Armor Crewman
You'll find 41E listed below... I've posted the link so that y'all can take a look and see how the MOS codes have changed over the years, and how some (ie: 11B) have remained the same... and they were different from these back in the 40's and 50's as well... not to mention before then.
http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwamos.htm
It's interesting to look back... there's some interesting ones for sure... I wonder what exactly a 25D-Birdie Repairman worked on??? lol... golf swings?
XxAdriesseNHARNG892xX
August 1st, 2006, 06:17 PM
OK...So I was reading this forum and it seems that we may all be in the same boat, because I am still having trouble choosing between which MOS I want to have. I am looking at Military Police (31B) or Medic (91W) I also am looking at firefighter but they dont have a unit in NH. So the best advice I can give people is what I am being told myself, do what you really feel the passion for. If you choose your job in the military and you want a simular job in the real world when you are donw with the military, then choose that MOS related to that job feild. Not all recruiters tell you the truth, some may lie, and others will just try to talk you into what they think is best. Do NOT listen to these people, because it is your job and not theirs. I was looking at MP for a while because of the fact that I was told that MP's was the closest thing to combat, but I may eliminate this because I am finding out this is not always true.
Shawn F.
August 1st, 2006, 10:07 PM
Echo, thanks a lot for the info! I haven't been able to look at all those links, etc but I will do that throughout this week and see what I can do. But yeah Airborne is something I am into. But before I do that I need to figure out the MOS. Besides 11B and MP, which is good to try and go in for airborne?
Again, thanks a lot!
Shawn F.
August 1st, 2006, 10:17 PM
Oh also, I saw that you said something about at least a 50 on your ASVAB. I got a 47 unfortunately, will this be ok to get into Airborne? My practice one I got a 53 but then did the actual real thing and messed up.
Echo
August 1st, 2006, 10:39 PM
Hey Shawn... I will check when I get home on that 50 ASVAB score... stay tuned!
(I don't recall if your score will preclude your chance @ Airborne training or not... or just the bonus... I'll try and check)
As far as the MOSs for Airborne (providing you still qualify?)... check those MOS links (we're talking Active Duty right???)... look over the videos I've provided the link to... and let me know what you think?
Me personally... I think that if I was gonna go Active & Airborne... I'd look into the Airborne Infantry, ie: 11B... why not?
That 37F training sounds good too!
MP sounds good too!
You could also be an Airborne 92G for that matter... it's up to YOU! (well... providing you qualify and they need to fill a training slot)
Let me know what you think... and I'll put in my 2 cents (if ya want me too of course!)
Echo
August 2nd, 2006, 01:11 AM
From what it says HERE (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/bonus/blarenlbonusnew.htm)... you may be outta luck as far as the bonuses are concerned... you'll need to take this up with your recruiter (and perhaps more importantly... MEPS)... perhaps your score is waiverable??? I don't know... take a look at these sections of that page that I've pasted in below... and also check out the MOS Videos (http://www.1800goguard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4361&postcount=1)... see what you think... look at all of the trucks on the road... 88M-Motor Transport might be a good choice and you'd more than likely have an actual "mission" to perform as an 88Mike. 92Y-Unit Supply might be a good choice... ours usually seemed to have something to do that actually that pertained to their MOS.
Below are the enlistment bonuses offered by the Army for enlistment in designated shortage jobs. This list is current as of June 1, 2006.
Enlistment bonuses are subject to change. For the very latest in enlistment bonuses, check the Army MILPER Messages (Note: You must an an Army AKO Account to access the MILPER Message Area).
To qualify for one of the below bonuses, an applicant must be a considered a Tier I Educational Applicant. That means the applicant must have a high school diploma, or a GED with at least 15 college credits. Additionally, the applicant must score a minimum of 50 on their overall Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) score. This is commonly referred to as the "AFQT Score."
A $3,000 Airborne Bonus is authorized to non-prior service applicants who are high school diploma graudates (or GED with at least 15 college credits), who score 50 or greater on the ASVAB, and volunteer for Airborne Training with a guaranteed Airborne assignment. The bonus is authorized for the following MOS's: 11X (with Ranger Contract), 13B, 13D,13R,, 21E, 21J, 25B, 25C, 25D, 25M, 25S, 35A, 37F, 42A, 45B, 63B, 88M, 92A, 92G, 92Y, 96B, and 97E.
The Airborne Bonus is also authorized for those who renegociate their enlistment contracts in Basic Training, AIT, or OSUT for Airborne Training with a guaranteed airborne assignment in the following MOSs: 11X (with Ranger Contract), 25B, 25S, 42A, 563B, 88M, 92G, 92Y, 96B, and 97E. Soldiers are eligible to receive the bonus after graduating from airborne training and reporting to their airborne/ranger assignment. Those with MOS's 25B, 25S, 88M, 92A, and 92Y will receive a $6,000 bonus, instead of the $3,000 bonus.
I don't know what they'll have to say about the bonuses for Airborne Active Duty... but it seems to be pretty cut & dried to me... I wouldn't get my hopes up as far as bonuses are concerned (the Guard is probably a different story but I'll bet Airborne training may be hard to get sent to later on if you go that route)
Echo
August 2nd, 2006, 01:27 AM
OK...So I was reading this forum and it seems that we may all be in the same boat, because I am still having trouble choosing between which MOS I want to have. I am looking at Military Police (31B) or Medic (91W) I also am looking at firefighter but they dont have a unit in NH. So the best advice I can give people is what I am being told myself, do what you really feel the passion for. If you choose your job in the military and you want a simular job in the real world when you are donw with the military, then choose that MOS related to that job feild. Not all recruiters tell you the truth, some may lie, and others will just try to talk you into what they think is best. Do NOT listen to these people, because it is your job and not theirs. I was looking at MP for a while because of the fact that I was told that MP's was the closest thing to combat, but I may eliminate this because I am finding out this is not always true.
April,
If you're female... MP would probably be your best bet to get close to combat (I actually hope that doesn't happen for you :) )
Then again... the members of the 507th Maintenance Co. got as close to combat as anyone else... if you recall Jessica Lynch... she was a 92A (of course she was injured in the Hummer crash and... never actually fired a shot... and... well... we all know the rest of that story... and that's OK... at least she was there)
If you have the chance to be a 91W... and that appeals to you... go for it... that way... you'll have the chance to help your fellow soldiers... and you might even get closer to combat than you want. Besides... it will teach you great skills and possibly spark your interest to continue on into a field in high demand such as nursing.
Best of luck to you on whatever you decide... and thanks for your commitment to serve!
Shawn F.
August 3rd, 2006, 12:01 AM
Echo, I am really looking into the National Guard. I am looking through MOS's and still not sure. Half of me says to do something like Machinist or Light Vehicle Repaire and the other half says Infantry. One reason I dont want infantry is because I don't want to get sent out right now and have everything put to the side but then again if I do something in mechanics I will be pissed if I get sent out anyways. If I get sent out then I want to be the one on the ground doing the shooting not sitting back working on vehicles all day everyday. Like I said, if there was a diver unit in North or South Carolina then I'd try going for that no questions asked but there isn't. So I want to have an MOS in the NG where I can still be able to ask for Airborne School and have a chance to get that spot. Even if they don't put me in an Airborne Unit then that is fine, the little patch would do. I just would love the rush of sky diving and also like the water (that's why I said the diver thing). Say that they send me out for just a little over a year, does that time being over there go by quick or no? A lot of people tell me that it is VERY boring and a lot of sitting around doing nothing and time goes by slow as heck.
Also, I dont care too much about the Airborne bonus, just as long as I can get in with a 47 on ASVAB. Sure a bonus would be nice but I wont NOT do it just because of that.
But like I have said, I am going crazy over the MOS thing, I STILL cannot figure one out. I am looking at some kind of combat one, or something with computers MAYBE (since a lot of people I know said I am very good with them and they think it's a good idea). I'd like to pick my MOS, do Airborne School and stay in the NG for 3 years and if I like it then reinlist for another 3 years (if I can do that).
Thanks again and sorry for such a LONG post! :(
Echo
August 3rd, 2006, 02:54 AM
Shawn,
What type of unit is closest to you?
Trust me... when it's Friday night 2 years from now... and you're due at your unit to get on the bus to go to a training area for the weekend... you're not gonna want to drive for 3-4 hours to get to the armory... head out for the training... spend all weekend there gettin' up @ 4am for the 2 days... and then have a 3-4 hour drive home to look forward to.
When I was first in the Guard... my unit was 5 mins. from my house... and then my civilian job transferred me 1 1/2 hours away and I moved... so for my last year in the Guard it was a drag even to attend a "home" drill.
My advice... check out your hometown unit (or the closest one)... and see what they have to offer as far as MOS's.
Go to these pages and scroll down for the Unit Listings (go all the way to the bottom for the Critical MOS Lists), I've included them both 'cause I don't know what town you live in:
North Carolina:
http://1800goguard.com/NC/index.php
South Carolina:
http://1800goguard.com/SC/index.php
... and see if you can figure out what type of units are closest to your home (if you need help determining what they are let me know, I'll give you my best guess ;) , you can also email me through my profile if you want to)
Anyways... I have a feeling that you're gonna be hard pressed to be able to get sent to Airborne with the Guard... I believe that those funds come from your state... and if you're not gonna be in an Airborne unit... why send you?
I may be wrong about that... but like I said... I think it'd be in your best interests to see what's being offered in your immediate vicinity.
Check and see what's available... and go from there... please let me know what you find out... and we can talk more about it. (I see there are a lot of Air Defense units in SC... I'd stay away from those 14-Series MOSs)
Maybe there's an Armor unit near you... 19K-Armor Crewman might be one that you'd like and qualify for. You'd be Combat Arms, get to drive, load & shoot an M1 tank... get the 20k Bonus... and have something to work on when it needs some tender lovin' PM.
Anyways... good luck in your search... I'll be around if you want to talk more.
Shawn F.
August 3rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
I am going to look through those links then and get back to you. BTW, I am in Charlotte or south of it. I work in South Carolina and live in North Carolina. I live right on the boarder. I saw something in Lancaster SC but didn't understand it or something and that is about 15-20 minutes from me! A lot of the things are about 3-6 hours away and a lot are in the mountains and if you know me, I HATE the mountains. Well not really hate but just not my thing, I like the desert. haha. Maybe I should just move back to So. Cal and that will fit me. :D Just messing.
Shawn F.
August 3rd, 2006, 09:30 PM
BTRY B (-) 1-113 FAB
PO BOX 567, MONROE, 28110
What is that? Monroe is 15 minutes from me just about. So are you saying that you CAN or CANNOT get in an Airborne unit in the guard? I know in Army Reserves you can because a buddy of mine is in one at Fort Jackson SC which I hear is only an hour from me. Maybe a TAD bit more.
Here is a few more...
HHB 113TH FAB (FWD 4)
4240 WEST BLVD, CHARLOTTE, 28208
HHB 1-113 FAB
4240 WEST BLVD, CHARLOTTE, 28208
HHC 30TH ENGR BDE (TA)
4240 WEST BLVD, CHARLOTTE, 28208
HHC 30TH ENGR BDE FWD
4240 WEST BOULEVARD, CHARLOTTE, 28208
Shawn F.
August 3rd, 2006, 09:54 PM
Well heck, I had a huge post on the edit button and accidentally erased it...
Here is some in SC that are near me...
-HHS 3 BN 178 FA
803 NICHOLS ROAD, LANCASTER, 29720
-CO B 178 ENGR BN
276 MUNN ROAD, FORT MILL, 29715 (I am guessing this is Engineering)
-178 EN BN HHC FWD
126 AIRPORT ROAD, ROCK HILL, 29732
That is all for SC. I just remembered something as well. My recruiter told me when I first met him about a Chemical Operation Specialist and that interested me quite a bit but then I thought for some odd reason it wasn't in NC and forgot about it. Now I see it is and that is on my list now. Here is the list of MOS's I have it narrowed down to and would like some info on Cavalry Scout and the Chemical one if possible...
1.)Infantry (for Airborne if possible)
2.)Cavalry Scout
3.)Chemical Operation Specialist (video link you gave me said something about being able to do Airborne and Ranger School after this AIT training)
4.)Metal Worker or such.
And last question if that is ok... Say that I sign up for only 3 years and after BCT and AIT training I decide I want to stay in for 6 years, will they allow me to change that or no? Reason I ask is because the thing about only 3 years not getting me to Airborne School and in an Airborne Unit if they let you do that in the Guard.
Thanks a TON again and very sorry for the million questions. After this I think you pretty much helped me out a ton and the rest is for me to think on and decide.
MAYBE forget the Chemical Op Spec. one. Haha I just saw that you have to know math, trig, geometry, science, etc well. I am HORRIBLE with math and never did well in high school and barely did it in college. I cannot stand math and it doesn't go along good with me. So looks like maybe down to about 3.
Echo
August 3rd, 2006, 10:14 PM
The 113th Field Artillery Brigade appears to be an MLRS unit (Multiple Launch Rocket System)... which the probable majority of MOS openings for it would be FA-type MOS's (13M, 13P, 13S, 13W would be my guesses for the majority)... you should check those out on the videos... 13Mike would probably have the most openings.
Don't forget the Critical MOS List BONUSES!!!! I see 13F-Fire Support Specialist... those guys are like the "Eyes of the Artillery"... they call them in on target... might be one to check out for ya... sorta like Cavalry with a BIG punch behind them!!!
The 113th has a cool SSI patch as well:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/images/113fa-bde.gif
Check this link as well:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/13.htm
The other units are Engineers... 21-series MOS for the most part... 21B-Combat Engineer for sure (good choice if ya wanna learn how to blow stuff up!!!)
Here's the link to most of those 21 series-MOS's:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/21.htm
... and the 30th ENGR BDE:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/30eng-bde.htm
Keep in mind... that they will probably have openings for some of the TOP 10 as well... every unit needs Supply & Cooks... Medics... that sorta thing.
Let me know what ya find out... OK?
Shawn F.
August 3rd, 2006, 10:44 PM
Echo, I will look into those that you mentioned. What do you think about Cavalry Scout? Goarmy.com site said you need to be able to lift heavy objects, etc. I am small as heck so that would not go so well with me. :D Also I will look at that 13F though too.
Echo
August 4th, 2006, 12:58 AM
Shawn... the thing about 19D-Cavalry Scout is... is whether or not it's available at a unit relatively close to you???
Cavalry Scout has just about the coolest sounding title of all of 'em for sure...
"Hey Poppa, what'd you do in the war?" "Well Johnny, I was a Cav Scout!"
BTW... Shawn... (and anyone else)... it would behoove y'all... to check out all of the MOS's... ya just never know what might catch your eye!
BTW... those videos are made by the Army... so what they say regarding Airborne *MIGHT* only apply to the Active Army.
Check out this PAGE (http://scarng.freeservers.com/locallisting.html)... it's from the South Carolina Guard... the towns which have an * by their names... have a page supposedly showing the current MOS openings at that local unit. Unfortunately... the one for Lancaster hasn't been completed as of yet.
Echo
August 4th, 2006, 01:04 AM
So are you saying that you CAN or CANNOT get in an Airborne unit in the guard? I know in Army Reserves you can because a buddy of mine is in one at Fort Jackson SC which I hear is only an hour from me. Maybe a TAD bit more.
It is my OPINION that it's not going to be easy to get sent to Airborne training through the Guard, especially depending on the type of unit you end up joining.
I'm also saying that the only way you're gonna know for sure... is to check with your recruiter and/or your prospective unit.
If they say that they can guarantee it... MAKE SURE IT'S IN WRITING!!!!
Double-check with your friend... maybe you can join that Reserve unit with an Airborne Contract???
wilson
August 4th, 2006, 10:06 PM
im lookin into joining the guard here soon, im still trying to decide if it is the right move for me. my husband and his family are discouraging me, but my family is encouraging me. anyways i would feel a lot better about joining if my hubby could join and be in the same unit as me, that way if my unit gets called to iraq we can go together(if that is incorrect,please let me know). he says he will only join if he can work with unix, a military operating system, he's really into infotech. anyways if anyone can tell me what his options are that would be great. also could you suggest an mos for him?
Echo
August 5th, 2006, 03:15 AM
im lookin into joining the guard here soon, im still trying to decide if it is the right move for me. my husband and his family are discouraging me, but my family is encouraging me. anyways i would feel a lot better about joining if my hubby could join and be in the same unit as me, that way if my unit gets called to iraq we can go together(if that is incorrect,please let me know). he says he will only join if he can work with unix, a military operating system, he's really into infotech. anyways if anyone can tell me what his options are that would be great. also could you suggest an mos for him?
If your husband can locate a Guard unit with an opening for MOS 25D-Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer... he may be in luck.
Here's the MOS description PAGE (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arjobs/bl25d.htm)... along with this LINK (http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/army/p/25d.htm) which provides a brief explaination regarding the training for 25Deltas and includes the following:
Training Details: Instruction will encompass the following topics: Automated Information System (AIS) security; computer fundamentals, computer terminal devices; networking theory and concepts; Windows and UNIX operating system; procedural actions in telecommunications operations such as message formatting, processing incoming/outgoing messages and service actions; training on communications security equipment and devices.
You should also check out this LINK (http://www.1800goguard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4361&postcount=1)... follow the instructions within... and go to Communications & IM... scroll to the bottom for the 74C video (the MOS designator was recently changed from 74C to 25D, but that video hasn't yet been updated to reflect this)
Good luck to you both...
_Questions22_
August 6th, 2006, 04:14 PM
Hello, Its me again. I am still looking into different MOS's and have made some progress (I think). I am still looking at 91W CBat Medic, 21B CBat Engineer, and 15T UH-60 HELICOPTER REPAIRER. I have talked to some people who have done some of these jobs but still unable to talk to someone who has been deployed with these MOS's. My recruiter wants me to go to MEPS on AUG. 14. A guy I work with told me I will know I'm ready when I want to join the guard not enlist. It took a minute to understand what he was saying but I finally got it and I AM ready to join. I have always had it in me to join but the MOS desicion is what is stoping me.
The 60 unit I'm looking at is always full and it is hard to get a seat, so I'm told. For that reason I don't know if I'll be able to do the repair MOS. There is a 21B unit being put together near where I live and they have 3 medic slots also. So, I have a lot of leway as far as that choice is concerned. How do you become a crew cheif on a bird? I was told they are 15T with at least 1 yr. time in service. If any one has been deployed, in any conflict since 1991, in one of the above MOS's I would really like to here from you. Thanks.
I am glad to see the post I started is helping some people. Shawn, I hope you were able to find what you wanted. I have yet to read all of the post due to a new college semester about to start, that and work, but I look foward to hearing from everyone. Thanks for the responses and don't stop now.
adamry1
August 7th, 2006, 05:35 AM
I like being a 91W and there is not a better place for AIT than Fort Sam Houston!! But, if I had it all to do over again I would have done the 91W with M6 on top of it. M6 is the nurse program. It is a one year program and when you are done you cantake the test for Registered nurse. That is about $35.00 per hour in the civilian world. I do love being a 91W though. The only problem is that the civilian opportunities are not what they should be.
Good luck to you with your decision.
Shawn F.
August 7th, 2006, 10:21 PM
I hear that the 91W is a great MOS and your also in combat as well with the infantry. I am still trying to get some info on the Cavalry Scout. I saw that the NC map on this site had two places for Cav I THINK. It said CAV and that was it and I am thinking that is it but they are 3-4 hours away. Maybe that is old and there is more of an updated one. Not sure though, I am back and forth here of joining and can't decide. I would hate to get in and not like it at all and hate it for 6 years.... So I am trying to take my time and wait. I am just trying to find out info on Cavalry Scout other than the go army site and this one and seeing what you can do within the Cav Scout MOS.
BTW, if I live in NC then where would my Cav Scout AIT and BCT training be at? Ft Benning still like my Infantry would have been?
Thanks again!
Echo
August 7th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Chances are you'd go to Fort Knox, Kentucky for your 16 weeks of 19D OSUT.
adamry1
August 8th, 2006, 03:57 AM
Keep in mind that if you are looking at 19D then you should also check out
13F. This is a forward observer which is the same basic job as a cav scout but the training is quicker. I think that it is only 6 weeks at Ft. Sill.
Shawn F.
August 8th, 2006, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the info, I will look into that as well! I am guessing that with Cavalry Scout they will send my *** off right away huh?
Echo
August 9th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the info, I will look into that as well! I am guessing that with Cavalry Scout they will send my *** off right away huh?
Shawn... a Food Service Specialist *might* get their "***" sent off right away.
It just depends on the assigned unit... and most importantly... "The Needs of the Service"!
I like the advice you were given in the previous post about 13F... remember all of those Arty units near you???
Shawn F.
August 9th, 2006, 01:06 AM
Yeah I am going to definetely look into that then, thanks I forgot they are near me too! Can you still do Airborne with a 13F as an MOS? That is the biggest thing and one of my goals is to do Airborne if I join the military.
Echo
August 9th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Yeah I am going to definetely look into that then, thanks I forgot they are near me too! Can you still do Airborne with a 13F as an MOS? That is the biggest thing and one of my goals is to do Airborne if I join the military.
Shawn... ya know I like ya right??? :D
DON'T TELL ME YOU ALREADY FORGOT WHAT I'VE TOLD YA ABOUT GETTING AIRBORNE IN THE GUARD???;)
(OK... I'm better now... whew!)
Seriously... although I don't actually know how many AIRBORNE Cav Scouts or AIRBORNE Metal Workers or AIRBORNE Fire Support Specialists the Guard needs... I doubt that there's too much of a need for any of 'em in the Guard... so... I'm willin' to bet... that it's gonna be purty darn tough to get sent to Jump School by a Guard unit especially with those MOS's... YEP, ab-so-lute-ly, I COULD BE WRONG... but I'd be willing to bet on it!:)
Shawn F.
August 9th, 2006, 01:21 AM
LOL alright I hear ya! Sorry, I just HAD to ask. Reason why is because I saw some guys on a few other forums that were in the Reserves and a few in the guard and did Airborne while in 11B and Cav. Scout but maybe they just got lucky... I am going to see the locations for 19D and 13F and get more info on BOTH. I am going to try to find a video on 13F on that site you game me here from West Viginia NG or whatever state it was....
Thanks again Echo, your the man for getting information! :D :cool:
Echo
August 9th, 2006, 01:31 AM
Ain't nuthin'... it's right at my fingertips! :D
Like I said... you *may* be able to get Airborne... ESPECIALLY if you went Active Duty!!!!! :D :eek: