Inter State Transfer/IST

[andrew.tischner]

This is a post for people that are already in the guard that are thinking or already have moved to a new state and need to get their Inter State Transfer done. Of course all states have a Inter State Transfer Coordinator but the recruiters on the local level will travel more and also know their indiviudal units well that might be of some help. So if you would like just respond to this post with what state you are from and what state you are looking to move to with some contact info and someone will be in contact with you hopefully. Also Later on I will try and get a collection of all 54 state and territory IST cordinators names and numbers.

Now I will be reviewing this post and I will be getting a collection of the most common recruiters on this site and the states they deal with.



New Jersey is of course me SGT Andrew Tischner cell # (908)240-6636. (I am just a recruiter not the IST coordinator)
Rhode Island Army National Guard SFC Ted Marrero (401) 374-9045


If you are a Recruiter and like to be put on this list please send me a email here and ill add your state and your name also.

[Sugarbear]

I am currently in the AZNG as a 15R. I have not been to AIT yet, and my unit is not all its cracked up to be. I also need to transfer to CA due to spouses relocation to San Diego. Can I transfer to another state and then can I also change MOS to 15U?

[andrew.tischner]

Transfer to CA shouldnt be a problem, when you get to the unit you could talk to the unit about changing MOSs

[armygirl2007]

i haven't been to basic yet and I want to know what it would take to transfer to Colorado. I live in New York. i want to keep my MOS.

[matthew.ritchie]

i haven't been to basic yet and I want to know what it would take to transfer to Colorado. I live in New York. i want to keep my MOS.

Immediately contact your chain of command (if it's after business hours, leave a message). Inform them as much as possible (date of moving, new address, new phone, new email). Ask to speak to your state's IST Coordinator. Your chain of command will find this person's number for you.

Important safety tip: You're a grown-up now, and this is your life, so no one will work any harder at this than you will. The IST process is not all that hard, but it isn't magic either. This is your responsibility, so if your IST coordinator has instructions or needs info, then comply immediately and completely. The people who have problems with this process tend to be the ones who don't follow instructions.

[andrew.tischner]

i haven't been to basic yet and I want to know what it would take to transfer to Colorado. I live in New York. i want to keep my MOS.


Again most of the time keeping your MOS is not a problem. If you have a Home or Record in colorado you can move there even before basic, but usualy its best to do it during basic( that can be done also !)

[shutterm4]

i haven't been to basic yet and I want to know what it would take to transfer to Colorado. I live in New York. i want to keep my MOS.

If you would like i can give you a recruiters name in Colorado Springs, CO. thats where i am from.

[RickH]

Just so I'm perfectly clear on ISTs, is it at all possible that one could be denied an IST? For instance, if I join the Indiana Guard and later get a civilian job offer in Colorado (which is a possibility for me), is there any chance that I would not be able to take that job because the Indiana Guard denied my transfer request (and there's obviously no way I could go back and forth between CO and IN for drilling)?
Although, one the one hand I could see how one would argue that such a denial would be unlikely because it's unreasonable, on the other hand I can see how the Guard might issue such denials to keep some folks from moving to another state to avoid an announced deployment.

[shutterm4]

I don't know that the outbound state will deny your IST, But i know that the incoming state does have that ability. The other thing that can get messed up when transferring is your bonus, because now its based off of state specific critical MOS's not a national list. How long until you cold possibly transfer to Colorado? You might consider waiting until you get there to sign up if its not a long time. Chances are good that Colorado wouldn't deny you though because they have a small force and are looking for anyone they can get.

[matthew.ritchie]

Just so I'm perfectly clear on ISTs, is it at all possible that one could be denied an IST? For instance, if I join the Indiana Guard and later get a civilian job offer in Colorado (which is a possibility for me), is there any chance that I would not be able to take that job because the Indiana Guard denied my transfer request (and there's obviously no way I could go back and forth between CO and IN for drilling)?
Although, one the one hand I could see how one would argue that such a denial would be unlikely because it's unreasonable, on the other hand I can see how the Guard might issue such denials to keep some folks from moving to another state to avoid an announced deployment.

Here are some legitimate reasons to deny an IST:

You're still within 50 miles of an armory of your original state (e.g., you're moving across a state line, but still close to the line).
You're under an adverse action flag (e.g., you've done something bad).
You owe money or equipment to your original state.
Your unit has been alerted for mobilization.

[armygirl2007]

how long do interstate transfers take?

[matthew.ritchie]

how long do interstate transfers take?

If you do what you're supposed to do in a timely manner, 30 days. The majority of occasions in which this hassle becomes a nightmare is when the Soldier doesn't follow instructions. It's not a hard procedure, but it's not magic -- you will need to put a bit of effort into it. It's your life, and no one will work any harder on it than you.

Contact your current chain of command, inform them of your situation, and ask for the number to your state's IST coordinator. Then inform her of your situation, and then do what she tells you.

[mackenzie.wilcox]

is there a minimum ammount of time you must spend at a unit if you ist?

[Sugarbear]

I drilled with my unit for two months, then started my AT and had to IST. I called the local recruiter there and they took care of it quickly. I don't think there is a requirement, but you need to have reason(s) to leave.

[SteveLord]

I did an IST from Iowa to NJ. Former commander and staff took care of everything and he even gave me a few months to find a unit.

Came here, when through processing with another group on a drill weekend and then the next day, went to the armory and met my new CoC.

FYI, be sure to check out your bonus! My ateup RNCO tried to make Iowa cut the check for my enlistment bonus when your new state should still take care of it. Make sure to check on that.

Also, don't expect any quick promotions...as you're basically on new terms with a new unit and new evaluations. Depends on your CoC, but be aware.

[WO1 Quinones]

Good thread. Steve, I thought you were in the IA guard instead of NJ cause it says Currently Alpha Troop.

[andrew.tischner]

I believe he mixed it up, he did a IST from NJ to iowa lol

[SteveLord]

I originally enlisted in IA...then moved/IST to NJ. And then went IRR for 9 months after my 6 years. And then re-uped this past March.

My last post was from a year ago if you'll notice. My signature has changed since and reflects across any post I've made.

[WO1 Quinones]

ok its still confusing because to me it appears that you in IA. Anyway, what part of NJ are you located at? Close to NYC or Atlantic City? I driven the NJ turnpike hundreds of times.

[SteveLord]

I am back in Iowa. I forgot to put that I had moved here and THEN re-uped.

Only thing I miss about NJ is the pizza.

[andrew.tischner]

And the best units ever!! lol

[andrew.tischner]

.bump shamless

[SPC Ski]

New Jersey...What part of New York State is that in??? :confused:

[andrew.tischner]

The part that the statue of liberty sits in.

[SPC Bowie]

I hope that I am not Necro-ing an old topic here and if I am I am sorry. I am currently in NY wanting to move to Florida, near the Tampa area. A google search showed the 260th MI BN down there however I cant find any relating documents to show the address or any phone numbers or anything. Is there a way for me to be able to find out? Also do anyone have the IST for NY?

[SteveLord]

I hope that I am not Necro-ing an old topic here and if I am I am sorry. I am currently in NY wanting to move to Florida, near the Tampa area. A google search showed the 260th MI BN down there however I cant find any relating documents to show the address or any phone numbers or anything. Is there a way for me to be able to find out? Also do anyone have the IST for NY?

Try this number 305-536-0233

Or you could call someone in the FLARNG and ask. :rolleyes:

http://www.floridaguard.army.mil/aboutus/default.aspx?id=758

[TradyMagrady]

I will be joining in Va, and just wanted to make sure that if later on i need to move back to Tx to be with my family, and go to school, that it'd be OK...

[HR NCO]

I will be joining in Va, and just wanted to make sure that if later on i need to move back to Tx to be with my family, and go to school, that it'd be OK...

Yes...your able to do that, now depending on when your ship date is, you may have to wait and transfer to TX after you complete your training.

[taampv]

I'm with the Puerto Rico National Guard. I moved to El Paso TX because my wife got stationed in ft. Bliss. I called my RNCO and I explained him my situation and that I needed a transfer to El Paso and he told me that a 4187 form had to be filled out with some additional information that he needed from me to complete the form. I then spoke with a SGT. Here in el paso and he told me that my transfer may not be approved because every unit in the area is over strength. I'm a 91B which is a diesel mechanic. My question is can my transfer be denied due to over strength? I'm currently doing what some people call it as courtesy drills with a unit in El Paso until the IST Coordinator assign me to a unit here.

[Ingrins]

I am in california and have just finished ait for 68 W im isting from az to ca and here in california they have told me that there is no vacancies for 68 w and I would have to get a whole new mos and go to another school. I have this feeling their just trying to make me do another mos so what do I do?!

[HR NCO]

I am in california and have just finished ait for 68 W im isting from az to ca and here in california they have told me that there is no vacancies for 68 w and I would have to get a whole new mos and go to another school. I have this feeling their just trying to make me do another mos so what do I do?!

If you want to move to CA then I guess you're going to have to get a new MOS. If they have no vacancies then thats kinds of what your stuck doing. With the guard being as full as it is right now, then theres a pretty good chance there telling you the truth.

[renee24]

My fiance wants to do an interstate transfer from OH to TX. His unit has been alerted for mobilization but he is non-deployable. He is also on AGR status in TX right now. Also, he ETS's December of this year. Will he be able to an interstate transfer?

[alexdjunior]

Hello im in the Kansas National Gaurd and im trying to transfer to the New York national gaurd i saw that they have an armory in Brooklyn but i have no idea who to contact or were to start!

SPC DeLeon, Alexandro (alexdjunior@hotmail.com)

[hrobot300]

I'm an Ohio National Guard , I want to request a transfer to DC national Guard , I have called the inter state coordinator and it's taking for ever
Is there another way ......thank you

[np_02]

I'd like to IST from CT to RI. My company is moving to where it will be a 2 hour drive to the armory for me. The next closest company in CT is still 1.5 hours. I live about 5 mins from RI. I'm 11b and I heard RI is deploying soon, I don't want to be in the rear d again though.

[bblair51]

I should hopefully be enlisted soon and am planning on moving to Ohio soon as my fiance lives there for school. Could I enlist and then IST before basic training? I had to get a waiver and I don't want to have to go through a huge re-enlistment thing if I move now in the middle of my enlistment.

[HR NCO]

I should hopefully be enlisted soon and am planning on moving to Ohio soon as my fiance lives there for school. Could I enlist and then IST before basic training? I had to get a waiver and I don't want to have to go through a huge re-enlistment thing if I move now in the middle of my enlistment.

Probably not, many states will not allow an RSP soldier to IST into their state. They often require that you are MOS qualified before they let you transfer in.

[Dave-O]

Im NCARNG 15Y considering having to move to CA. I've only been out of AIT since May and haven't spent much time with my new unit. Im not sure exactly how the process works, but I see there is an aviation unit near Los Angeles, but it would be a 15T MOS. For IST, do you have to find your exact MOS to do it, or can you be within that realm? Im just wondering if I would have to be reclassed to be accepted into a unit. The NG site is saying Los Alamitos, CA.

[YJRB]

Here's a question... I've seen Interstate transfers, but is it possible to get an internation transfer if your spouse is working for a different military in a neighboring country?

[ParalegalNCO1]

Here's a question... I've seen Interstate transfers, but is it possible to get an internation transfer if your spouse is working for a different military in a neighboring country?

Troll......

[balls055]

Im actually transferring from NJ national guard to NEvada national guard [ trasnferring college to unlv] ....And i need help....my superirors in nj told me to get in touch with a recruiter and give them some line/paragraph number..which i have no clue what it is...

Can anyone help me in directing me to a person i can contact in Las vegas for the trasnfer ??? [ im a 15 g ]

[collk22]

Think of a paragraph and line number as a unit in a slot; when your state releases you for a transfer, they have to know you're going somewhere specific. This may give you a starting point on tracking down a paragraph/line number: http://www.nv.ngb.army.mil/army/recruiting.cfm

[collk22]

Think of a paragraph/line number as a specific slot at a unit. Your state isn't going to just release you without knowing you are going somewhere specific.

This may help: http://www.nv.ngb.army.mil/army/recruiting.cfm

(hint: I typed "Las Vegas National Guard" into Google and it was the first link...)

[Mike.]

Here is a list of numbers and locations

http://www.nv.ngb.army.mil/army/recruiting.cfm

I think there is also one across from UNLV along Maryland Parkway but its not on the directory.

Also I think aviation is the north of the state.

[Polo08816]

Here's a question... I've seen Interstate transfers, but is it possible to get an internation transfer if your spouse is working for a different military in a neighboring country?

Yeah dude, definitely. It's lulzeasy.

[balls055]

Think of a paragraph and line number as a unit in a slot; when your state releases you for a transfer, they have to know you're going somewhere specific. This may give you a starting point on tracking down a paragraph/line number: http://www.nv.ngb.army.mil/army/recruiting.cfm

thank you mike and colk22 .....for responding

i emailed both IST coordinators of NV and NJ ......so.. will they help me with the process ? is there anything specific i should know ??

the NV co-ordinator asked me to call him on tuesday to start the process..havent gotten a reply from the Nj co-ordinator yet.

...Im moving to vegas on 4th in time to finish my college reinstatement...how do i apply for the excused absences for the missing the drills in NJ ?? is there a form i can fill and mail ?? or will i be forced to come back from vegas to nj to drill..and then go back ? i read somewhere that i will be allowed to drill with a local unit there until iam assigned one.....will they allot me a unit to drill with until i find a new unit ?

is there a good chance that NV ng will require me to switch mos's ??? i dont mind...but i was just wondering....does that mean i have to goto AIT again or can i pick when i can go for ait ?

Forgive me if i asked too many questions....never done this before.....and kinda lost :)

[balls055]

Think of a paragraph and line number as a unit in a slot; when your state releases you for a transfer, they have to know you're going somewhere specific. This may give you a starting point on tracking down a paragraph/line number: http://www.nv.ngb.army.mil/army/recruiting.cfm

thank you mike and colk22 .....for responding

i emailed both IST coordinators of NV and NJ ......so.. will they help me with the process ? is there anything specific i should know ??

the NV co-ordinator asked me to call him on tuesday to start the process..havent gotten a reply from the Nj co-ordinator yet.

...Im moving to vegas on 4th in time to finish my college reinstatement...how do i apply for the excused absences for the missing the drills in NJ ?? is there a form i can fill and mail ?? or will i be forced to come back from vegas to nj to drill..and then go back...atleast thats what another comrade told me ....he said i still have to come to nj and drill until the transfer process is omplete :( ?

i read somewhere that i will be allowed to drill with a local unit there until iam assigned one.....will they allot me a unit to drill with until i find a new unit ?

is there a good chance that NV ng will require me to switch mos's ??? i dont mind...but i was just wondering....does that mean i have to goto AIT again or can i pick when i can go for ait ?

Forgive me if i asked too many questions....never done this before.....and kinda lost :)

[HR NCO]

Once the IST process is started, you have 3 months to find a unit and swear in your new state.

[balls055]

i contacted the IST co-ordinators of NV and nj.....and they were real helpful in guiding me...

but .....my unit 1st sgt contacted me and said ....that i dont have permission to drill with another state.....and the transfer process paperwork in the unit might take 5-6 months or longer....

when i forwarded the info to the Nv ist co-ordinator......he says that it shoudnt take that long and i should take the matter up with the Nj ist co-ordinator....

what should i do ?? :(

please help me...im confused... :/

i just wanted to go back to my college in las vegas :/

[RedLeg]

Your 1SG isn't the approval authority, only your commander is. If you're not flagged, there should be no reason why your commander would deny you drilling with another unit pending transfer. Especially if you run the risk of being a non participant which would look bad on him. If it becomes an issue, use your commander's open door policy and talk to him directly.

[HR NCO]

It will not take 5-6 months to IST, thats a simply ridiculous statement.

[Polo08816]

It will not take 5-6 months to IST, thats a simply ridiculous statement.

Hrm... well. Some units are truly ridiculous.

[balls055]

hmmm.....so you guys are saying ..what my 1stgt said is all b.s ?? :(

i initially had my tickets booked..cause my semester starts next week.....

but my 1sgt said that i cannot miss any drill..and i dont have permission to drill with another state....and by what you are saying...he might as well stall the transfer proess.

and if i do miss a drill..he say he will ischarge me from the national guard...under

"other than Honorable " discharge.....

I joined the national guard for college....but this is getting rather frustrating....

[RedLeg]

I'm saying some 1SG/CSM's will wander into a lane that is the sole authority of the commander and attempt to make decisions for the commander. This is also why I stated to use the commander's open door policy and talk to him directly.

If you're passing your ht/weight, APFT, ECT, there's no reason why your unit should stall on approving your transfer. If you're passing your ht/weight, APFT, ECT and if you can find a unit with your MOS, there really shouldn't be a reason why the gaining commander wouldn't accept you.

The alternative is it would take your unit probably 6+ months to discharge you. Durring that time you would be a bad mark on your commander and he would have to answer as to why your a non participant. This is a fight most commanders probably won't take on (only if you're again passing ht/weight/APFT ECT).