My Rank

[diablo508]

For my own peace of mind help me clear something up. My MOS is 09S (Officer candidate),I leave for basic on June 25th and althouh I am sure it will be worked out when I get to Ft. Pickett I am curious...what is my rank? I was told by my recruiter that after I graduate college (just a couple of weeks ago) I am "candidate" however the Ssgt. in charge of my RSP unit said that I am a Specialist. Just wondering if anyone can provide any insight since officer candidates are paid more!:D

Thanks for the help!

[matthew.ritchie]

For my own peace of mind help me clear something up. My MOS is 09S (Officer candidate),I leave for basic on June 25th and althouh I am sure it will be worked out when I get to Ft. Pickett I am curious...what is my rank? I was told by my recruiter that after I graduate college (just a couple of weeks ago) I am "candidate" however the Ssgt. in charge of my RSP unit said that I am a Specialist. Just wondering if anyone can provide any insight since officer candidates are paid more!:D

Thanks for the help!

Once you're formally attached to the OCS detachment, you'll be a candidate, and get administratively marked for pay grade E6. You're not a staff sergeant, you're an officer candidate with pay grade E6. Depending on when you graduate Basic and when OCS formally starts, you may have a few drill weekends as a SPC/E4.

[diablo508]

Thanks for the help

[df8217]

On a related note, if I am now an E7 will I actually lose pay going to OCS?

[matthew.ritchie]

On a related note, if I am now an E7 will I actually lose pay going to OCS?

No. The "safe pay" provision in the pay regulations means that you'll never lose pay in a voluntary, positive change of status. If you go to OCS, you'll maintain your higher pay grade.

[AaronLucia]

How come in the NG Commissioning Programs Applican't Packet it says that 'Soldiers will wear the OCS insignia upon completion of basic training' if we really can't wear it?

[toooldforocs]

Where does a WOC fit in the picture? I was boarded and appointed to WOC, and then transfered to my duty assignment. Where I am working as the "Chief". The question I have even though I am getting paid as an E-5, does the WOC Rank superceed the pay grade?

[matthew.ritchie]

Where does a WOC fit in the picture? I was boarded and appointed to WOC, and then transfered to my duty assignment. Where I am working as the "Chief". The question I have even though I am getting paid as an E-5, does the WOC Rank superceed the pay grade?

You should be pay grade E6, unless there's something else going on here that I'm missing. Do you work full-time for the Guard in any status?

[toooldforocs]

Appointment to WOC is paygrade E-5, unless you held a rank higher than E-5, then you hold the rank you held prior to appointment.

[matthew.ritchie]

Appointment to WOC is paygrade E-5, unless you held a rank higher than E-5, then you hold the rank you held prior to appointment.

NGR 600-101, paragraph 2-11c. "Applicants for warrant officer candidate status not having attained the enlisted grade established by the DA MOS proponent must be appointed to pay grade E-5 ..."

It's amazing what I can learn when I check the regulation.

[toooldforocs]

I was rooting for you sir, thought I might have missed somthing. But back to the original question, does a WOC out "Rank" an enlisted soldier.

[AaronLucia]

What are O.C.S. candidates called while at work (not in O.C.S.)?

I am working AGR for a little bit and my recruiter said I can wear OCS rank since that is what I enlisted for, but i'm not sure how others should address me? I honestly don't care what they call me, but others might. :P

[shutterm4]

You are either sir or something like candidate _______. I was taught that officer candidates were due the same respect that an officer has.

[AaronLucia]

Gotcha. :)