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TruSoldier
April 12th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Can anyone give me a list of possible Full-time or Part-time jobs in the Guard? I got an 81% on my ASVAB if that helps any. I would greatly appreciate this.
Tru
VTguard
April 12th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Can anyone give me a list of possible Full-time or Part-time jobs in the Guard? I got an 81% on my ASVAB if that helps any. I would greatly appreciate this.
Tru
The only way to get a list of jobs is to contact someone from your state. You should contact a recruiter in KY, and ask for a list. If you don't know how to contact the recruiter in your area, call 1-800-GO-GUARD.
Chris89
May 2nd, 2006, 05:10 PM
My plan! Is to join the National Guards Reserve while I am in High School. I sign my life away on the 15th of May 2006. Try to make it threw high school im barely making it thoe, I might drop out and get my GED thoe. But if I make it threw highschool or what ever im going to go full time after I get out of High School. Anyways if I stay activit in till im 40 or 50 can I retire? What do I get when I retire?
Chris Phillips
tex8ball
May 2nd, 2006, 11:30 PM
Dude, get your prioritys straight, your talking about joining the army, but you might drop out and get a G.E.D thats stupid. I dont sugar coat stuff i give it strainght, if you are wanting answers and people to take you serious, get serious.Its great you want to serve your country but your attitude , example your asking what do i get money money money, you see dollar signs, freebies.
But what do i know this opinion coming from a 16 year old freshmen.
tex8ball
May 2nd, 2006, 11:33 PM
I think you can retire after 20 years of military service know matter what branch.
On the guard homepage go to money, drop down to retirement and start reading.
LRSU_Dog
May 2nd, 2006, 11:48 PM
There is no problem with having goals, just ensure you know the difference between short term and long term goals. In the short term you need to stay in school and graduate - after all I believe if you check with your recruiter you will find that your enlistment hinges upon this little fact.
As far as retirement, you can retire after 20 years, or stay till they kick you out. As a ARNG soldier you will not draw retirement pay unitl age 60, however you still retain retirement benefits and base access immediately upon retirement. You just have to wait a bit longer for the direct monetary incentives.
By going full time, if you are in a military position as opposed to a civil servent or civilian trechnician position, you can complete the minimum or maximum years of service and begin drawing all retirement benefits, to include money and medical the day after you retire.
I would think you need to keep the long term in mind, but focus on the short term - complete school and graduate, get into the military and get fully qualified as a soldier, and then go from there with the next phase of your career planning, such as professional development. If and AGR slot appears and you secure it through qualification and stellar performance ratings then you are on your way to fulfilling your long term goals.
Check out these links from this site:
http://www.1800goguard.com/money/money_retirement.html (http://www.1800goguard.com/money/money_retirement.html)
and
http://www.1800goguard.com/money/money_earn.php (http://www.1800goguard.com/money/money_earn.php)
Chris89
May 3rd, 2006, 06:23 AM
Dude, get your prioritys straight, your talking about joining the army, but you might drop out and get a G.E.D thats stupid. I dont sugar coat stuff i give it strainght, if you are wanting answers and people to take you serious, get serious.Its great you want to serve your country but your attitude , example your asking what do i get money money money, you see dollar signs, freebies.
But what do i know this opinion coming from a 16 year old freshmen.
Well your probably in IB or AB or what ever those smart classes are called. Im hardly passing high school you think im going to go to College look at me I don't have good grammer and stuff ill be amazed if I passed the ASVAB test. If I flunk this year im going to go into some special ed class with some retards, if I do that yeah im dropping out what 2+2 chris? Answer 6? Very Very good Chris you want a cookie for trying the Answer is 4 thoe you were very very Close im Proud of you? Read that isn't that stupid. IM a freaking 10th grader I pass sometimes I don't pass. Anything else you want to say about me getting a G.E.D? Actually your right I see dollar signs and stuff but that is not the main reason I want to join it is on my list to join but my main reason is Driving the big trucks, being a MP or doing construction but I like driving and thats a job in the Army so Im going to take it if I pass the asvab. and Retirement I was just wondering because if I can retire from the National Guards im going to retire from the National Guards. Because what else will I do with my life be a druggy?
LRSU_Dog
May 3rd, 2006, 07:43 AM
Do the best that you can, falling short sometimes is a fact of life. You should do what you can to try to graduate with a high school diploma - if that is not possible it is commendable that you already have a PLAN B in mind by getting your GED. There is, after all absolutely nothing wrong with either or... Both get you in the military and both can get you into college if you want to down the road.
Try not to be negative in posts, likewise self deprecating. No one is perfect, and the goal is to help. Everyone is driven by different motivators, some for altruistic goals such as duty and honor, some for financial security, and still others for both. I have over 14 years of service in all three components of the Army, and upon this return to service I was notivated to be a soldier, but also take advantage of available incentives toward financial security in regard to my family and myself.
There is nothing wrong with goals, no matter what they are and what they are based upon - what matters is attaining them, in this case serving our communities and country while doing a job we want to do and ustilizing the benefits in place for soldiers to better themsleves and thier futures. The ARNG ten becomes a vehicle for attaining goals, and serving. After all, no one goes into the civilian workforce for duty, it is about financial goals - how much wil I get paid to do this job... and if I spend my whole life doing it what do I get... With the military it is the same, only with things like service and honor and respect as part of who we are.
Just remember that with all goals there are steps to attaining them, getting from point A to point B is a process - so do not lose sight of the forest because of the trees... yet remember as well that there is a forest, made from a variety of trees.
Samber
May 3rd, 2006, 08:59 AM
I am no expert, but I believe that if you drop out of high school, you can't get into the military. The military does not want a quitter.
Chris89
May 3rd, 2006, 12:17 PM
I am no expert, but I believe that if you drop out of high school, you can't get into the military. The military does not want a quitter.
What your age ? Do you know anything about the army what age you need to be what grade don't go on no www.GOARMY.com site and tell me, tell me what you know if you don't know then shut ur mouth. Talk to your recruiter and see what options you have open. In till then don't talk about stuff you don't know about ! ! ! ! ! The National Guard will help you get your G.E.D.
mustanggirl04
May 3rd, 2006, 12:36 PM
I'm a hs senior who had some problems with school and after good consideration dropped out. I am getting my GED on the 16th. I am also signing with the Guard and yes u can sign with a GED. I don't like that I am getting my GED but its the option that works best for me. So really considerall your options before dropping out from someone who has done it.
AbnMtn
May 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM
What your age ? Do you know anything about the army what age you need to be what grade don't go on no www.GOARMY.com site and tell me, tell me what you know if you don't know then shut ur mouth. Talk to your recruiter and see what options you have open. In till then don't talk about stuff you don't know about ! ! ! ! ! The National Guard will help you get your G.E.D.
Chris,
Consider this before taking any drastic steps and dropping out of school. These are two of the many elements of the criteria used to accept applicants into the National Guard GED Plus program:
- Be withdrawn from high school at least six months prior to enlistment (you'll have to wait six months before a recruiter can consider enlisting you since you won't qualify for the GED Plus).
-Be 18 years old or older or be ineligible to return to your high school for completion of the high school diploma program (This one is the critical one since you either have to wait until you're 18 years old or have done something other than just dropping out to cause the school to refuse to take you back. And they have to take you back as long as you are under 18 years old - kind of a catch 22).
Just like LRSU Dog is recommending, do your best and try as much as you can to get that diploma by completing high school. Don't do anything you may regret later.
Chris89
May 4th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Well, I turn 18 next year so yah.... I don't know, 2 of my friends was on the same past I was on they were a little bit smarter but they drop out im still trying to stick with it to make my dad happy but... I really don't know
sentineljeff
June 13th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Can anyone give me a list of possible Full-time or Part-time jobs in the Guard? I got an 81% on my ASVAB if that helps any. I would greatly appreciate this.
Tru
Goto your State ANG site, for example Nebraska's is NEguard.com, so Kentucky might be KYguard, or KentuckyGuard or something like that. There should be a link on there for you to see current openings.
KYRecruiter
June 21st, 2006, 10:52 AM
You're in a great place for a variety of jobs in Central KY. Within a 40 mile radius, you can find everything from Infantry, Aviation, Artillery, Supply, Intel...you name it. The best option for you might be to look and see what jobs you're interested in, and let on of the recruiter's here know. If you have any questions, I'm in Lexington @ 859-433-3745.
Gpjeep
September 21st, 2006, 11:48 AM
with an 81% you can do what ever you want..was that in the recruters office or the real test?
Swollsooner315
November 6th, 2006, 05:00 AM
this may be a stupid question, but if i go full time in the national guard would i get paid the same as a full time army soldier?
matthew.ritchie
November 6th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Not a stupid question at all -- yes, a Guard Soldier on active duty has the same pay, benefits, entitlements, and requirements as an active duty Soldier.
ell2j
November 6th, 2006, 09:56 AM
I guess have a question to add on that as well. What constitutes going full-time in the Guard? Do you still only drill one-weekend a month, two weeks a year or do you have more responsibilities and drilling?
Adman
November 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM
Please respond ASAP to the previous post because if i can i would LOVE to go full time into the National guard instead of part time. I think that would be super awsome!!!
Swollsooner315
November 6th, 2006, 05:24 PM
well i know that if i get deployed that i will get paid full time. but if i get a job serving full time in the guard instead of full time, would i be considered a full time soldier with the same benefits? sorry i wasnt more clear the first time!
Swollsooner315
November 6th, 2006, 06:19 PM
bump.....anyone?
sgtblack82
November 6th, 2006, 06:37 PM
full-time guard means your on active duty status, like a recruiter as bad *** is he want you to think he is he and active duty guard or reverist who is non-deployable. There are a few other non-deployable mos's, as well.
ell2j
November 6th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Ok so I still don't quite understand. I know that when you're unit is activated you are considered full-time/active duty. It wouldn't make sense any other way, but can you go full-time in the Guard? Can you make being in the National Guard your full-time job or is it only if your unit is activated or deployed that you go on active status? If you're in the Guard are you a part-time soldier all the time until you get deployed? Or can you take the option of serving in the Guard as your full-time job? Does this make sense to anyone?
matthew.ritchie
November 6th, 2006, 11:14 PM
well i know that if i get deployed that i will get paid full time. but if i get a job serving full time in the guard instead of full time, would i be considered a full time soldier with the same benefits? sorry i wasnt more clear the first time!
There are a percentage of Guardsmen who serve full-time. There are two categories: AGR (Active Guard and Reserve) and Technician. AGR entails active duty pay, benefits, and requirements. Technician is a form of civil service connected with your drill status. Those descriptions are both gross simplifications, but that's enough to get you started. You must apply for specific positions in either status. Speak to your unit Readiness NCO for a list of openings in your state. You can also request to serve the Guard at the federal level as a Title 10 AGR. Those positions are worldwide, but probably 80% are in Arlington, Virginia.
Chad
November 7th, 2006, 09:04 AM
Here is a URL that has links to each state and there listing of jobs available. But realize these are usually very competitive.
Good luck.
http://www.fulltimeguard.com/
xxkingzxx
January 31st, 2007, 01:24 PM
Hi im new here, i want to join the Armed forces, I took the ASVAB for the National Guard, i passed, but i was looking into the full time option but i cant seem to get a straight answer from my recruiter, so my question is
1) can i enlist as a full time guardsman
2) If i can and i do will it be like having 9 to 5 and be steady not just temp work
im really looking at a stedy job because im only 18 but im married and have a 4month year old son and they rely heavily on me for financial support, or do you think i should join a more active service like the active army
barryjw
February 6th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Full time jobs are limited and you can get them but they are not something your Recruiter can help with.
Best way to do it is go supply, Alot of units have full time supply people. Also, go to the big National Guard posts and find out what people work there. Lastly, get online and check for title 10/32 activation stuff. check for AGR jobs and then ask questions about them as they come up. Alot of times, they don't have people trained in the job posting applying so they hire someone else of a different MOS who just learns the job on the spot.
Bottom line, you don't enlist for an active slot.
six3mike
February 7th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Best thing to do is contact an active duty recruiter. Once you are in the guard you will have to rely on your commander to release you and allow you to go active duty. Shoot me a pm if you want and I can get you the number to your local active Army recruiter. Just let me know what area you are in.
If you want to go full time in the guard its basically an application process. And it all depends on AGR slots within that unit. Coming in as the newbie it is unlikely that you will get an active guard position.
andrew.tischner
February 8th, 2007, 10:38 AM
AGR is not just in your unit u can apply for AGR positions throughout your state and country
PARecruiter11B24
February 8th, 2007, 10:22 PM
Hi im new here, i want to join the Armed forces, I took the ASVAB for the National Guard, i passed, but i was looking into the full time option but i cant seem to get a straight answer from my recruiter, so my question is
1) can i enlist as a full time guardsman
2) If i can and i do will it be like having 9 to 5 and be steady not just temp work
im really looking at a stedy job because im only 18 but im married and have a 4month year old son and they rely heavily on me for financial support, or do you think i should join a more active service like the active army
To answer number 1 NO you can not enlist in to the Guard and be a full time Guardsman. If thats what you are looking fo than go see the Active Army.
sav_OH
February 11th, 2007, 10:15 PM
There are available job all the time and, yes they are like a 9-5 job( some what). The problem with that is most of the jobs you may need a little bit of rank under your belt. My suggestion, go guard go to school let the guard pay for it and give you extra cash for going to school! Many states give you $300 for going to school and another $250 for the MGIB kicker ( If you Qualify ) pay for your school. They give you $250 a dependant and yor basic drill pay which as an e1 will probably be around $150 or so.300+250+250+250+150=1200 plus you can work a job! I think it would be crazy to pass that kind of deal up!!!! I also cosidered active duty also married and expecting!!!! So im going guard get my schooling ( for free ) and more time with the family winning combanation!!!
calvary scout
August 14th, 2007, 10:33 PM
hello, i just joined the guard and i need some advice.. 1. how long do i have to participate in part-time before i get a full time job. i will be stationed in connerville indiana. bct and ait is in fort knox kentucky. (i really need to know.) I talk to my recruiter, and i cant believe what he told, and what i had to go through this week after drill in muncie indiana (rsp).. first, he didnt let me fill out my w-4 form, my residence is in brookville ohio, when i got my first check, it said that i need to fill out a new dd form 2058. When i told him that he got pissed, all it took was 3mins of his time he made a copy and gave the original. i said are you going to fax it to indianapolis and he said no. i didnt say anything and then i ask him if there were full time jobs in the guard and he said yes, but i shouldnt apply for them and that i would be wasting my time. so i had to go to the library in brookville ohio and call pay roll department and pay 3.00 to fax my state of residence. they told me what i had to go through was absurd. can anyone help me out here
PV Kelly William Miniard
calvary scout
August 14th, 2007, 11:02 PM
The only way to get a list of jobs is to contact someone from your state. You should contact a recruiter in KY, and ask for a list. If you don't know how to contact the recruiter in your area, call 1-800-GO-GUARD.
please help me and tell me what i should do. users name is calvary scout
shutterm4
August 15th, 2007, 12:26 AM
hello, i just joined the guard and i need some advice.. 1. how long do i have to participate in part-time before i get a full time job. i will be stationed in connerville indiana. bct and ait is in fort knox kentucky. (i really need to know.) I talk to my recruiter, and i cant believe what he told, and what i had to go through this week after drill in muncie indiana (rsp).. first, he didnt let me fill out my w-4 form, my residence is in brookville ohio, when i got my first check, it said that i need to fill out a new dd form 2058. When i told him that he got pissed, all it took was 3mins of his time he made a copy and gave the original. i said are you going to fax it to indianapolis and he said no. i didnt say anything and then i ask him if there were full time jobs in the guard and he said yes, but i shouldnt apply for them and that i would be wasting my time. so i had to go to the library in brookville ohio and call pay roll department and pay 3.00 to fax my state of residence. they told me what i had to go through was absurd. can anyone help me out here
PV Kelly William Miniard
There is no time limit, they are based off of rank. If you want an AGR position in your state, then you have to have the right rank and you have to be the best candidate for the job. You also have to be in the right MOS
KeyT
August 18th, 2008, 09:15 PM
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LT_77
August 18th, 2008, 10:56 PM
AGR is just like any other full time job or even Active Duty job. M-F and one or sometimes two weekends a month (rarely) so if you want to keep a second job it shouldn't be an issue as long as it doesn't interfere with your primary responsibilities. :cool:
I know down at the unit level (from what I've seen) each one (Company size) has 3 full timers. A Readiness NCO (E7), a Training NCO (E6), and a Supply NCO (E5 or E6). I wonder how this varies across the states.
SteveLord
August 18th, 2008, 11:22 PM
AGR promotes 7.5 hours a day of coffee drinking, air conditioning loving, foot on desk resting lazyness!
HEED MY WARNING FOR I WILL SURELY BE SOUGHT OUT AND EXECUTED FOR REVEALING THEIR SECRETS!
:D :D :D :D
Anyway, there is usually stiff competition amongst those positions....so put your game face on.
(I work for the state so look who's talking ^_^ )
WIBecky74
August 19th, 2008, 02:09 AM
Umm.... nevermind, I would be fighting someone elses fight so I'll keep this one to myself. lol :P ALTHOUGH (lol) I can say he is AGR, HQ level Supply Sergeant (SFC) and puts in about 60 hours/week, lots of weekends, AND does work at home OFTEN. And that was before the brigade deployment notice, now he just basically lives at the armory. lol
matthew.ritchie
August 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
When I get back from Iraq I would like to go to AGR, hopefully as the unit ADMIN or Ops Sgt.
I would also like to do police work on the side as a part-time police officer. I would probably do it one night a week, maybe on the weekend. The schedule is pretty flexible, so it won't interfere my my AGR schedule.
Can you be AGR and work part-time?
Have this conversation with your chain of command after you're hired AGR. Explain how this will not interfere with drill or regular duties. Also show how this aspect of your life enhances your military job performance. I'm confident you'll get approval, but you want it documented ahead of time to cover yourself (arrest your own AWOLs? that'll save a step). That way, if you get into a freak toothpick accident while on a police stakeout, you'll be able to show how you were not negligent in your duties.
jwill48
January 21st, 2009, 08:38 AM
If you go the website in the title it will give you a list of vacancies by state.