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ProudMilitaryWife
November 13th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Hi there:

I thought I would post some questions here, since I'm not having any luck dealing with the recruiter who is "sincerely trying to help" my husband. My husband trusts this guy and thinks being a good soldier means following orders, trusting your team to have your back and not asking a bunch of "silly" questions. He's mostly right - but I've never been a "good" military wife and I don't follow orders worth a ****. Especially not when I think someone might be trying to take advantage of MY team. So, I'm asking the silly questions.

My husband is a Marine, E-5 (MOS 6672 - Supply Clerk, was the NCOIC of his unit for almost three years) in the last 10 mos of his IRR. The 8 yr committment ends 9/2007. He misses the military camaraderie, but wants to stay in the same place (and I have a high level job that I would be stupid to leave) so is seriously considering joining the Guard, because of that and the higher bonuses & SLRP. He has exemplary service records from the USMC, has 98/128 credits required to graduate and will be completing his BA in Business in 4/2007, courtesy of VA-VocRehab.

He wants to apply for ARNG OCS and hopes to attend next summer, but we're getting a major bunch of confusing BS from the recruiter he's been working with. They've said that his Marine MOS transfers into 92A (Automated Logistical Support) but are trying to get him into the "Try One" as a 92W (Water Treatment) and then to re-enlist during the year, saying that he won't get the full bonus if he chooses a 6 year enlistment. I'm all for my husband enlisting again, but I want to make sure that his goal of attending OCS and the bonus money are hard-wired for him, and not just take the word of some smooth-talking, woman-bashing recruiter. Can you tell I don't like the guy? Maybe it's because he's treated me like a brainless bimbo since day 1 - or it could be that he tried to trick my husband into signing the enlistment contract without reading it or having me present, by telling him he'd faxed me a copy and I had already inspected and ok'd it.

Here are the questions I have:

Is my husband affiliating, since he's under IRR in the USMC for another 10 mos, or Prior Service/Broken service? Which bonuses/payment schedules (lump or 50/50) would he qualify for? I can't get a straight answer from these guys!

My husband is planning a career in Supply Chain, so 92A or 92Y would be the MOS that would fit best - both are critical, according to the info we've seen. Why are they trying to move him into 92W? He'd have to be completely retrained, versus hitting the ground running.

On the "Try One" I've been told that he won't be eligible to even apply to OCS until after the full year of service is completed - he's met all the reqs for OCS - shouldn't he be applying DIRECTLY to OCS, rather than going in as enlisted? Are these guys trying to pad their numbers by getting an enlisted man this year and a OCS candidate next year? They won't give us the contact info for the state Officer Strength Manager and none of the other recruiters will talk to us because we've been "marked" by this guy.

The "Try One" isn't eligible for any bonuses - affiliating or PSEB. If he were to re-enlist 2 mos into the "Try One", would he be eligible for any bonuses, and if so which ones will he be eligible to receive and when will they be paid?

HELP! I'm getting so frustrated with this whole process and this manipulative recruiter, I'm thinking of telling my guy to just call the Marine Reserves instead!

Thanks in advance.

A Sgt's Wife

andrew.tischner
November 16th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Well i am going to try and take it from where the major left off.

ok there is a couple things that your husband can do.

Affiliation Bonus= he qualifies for this because he has MSO ( or IRR) time remaining, it is a $20,000 bonus for 6 years, 50 percent when affiliated, 50 percent 3 years later, has to stay in same MOS he is qualified for.


Prior Service Enlistment Bonus= Up to a 15,000 dollar bonus for 6 years, he can enlist in any of the critical MOSs from state and the NGB( national Guard Buerua) this also is a 50 percent payment after he is MOSQ ( trained in the new job) and 50 percent 3 years later


He does not qualify for a Re enlistment bonus as he currently is not in the service so he does not qualify for a $15,000 lump sum bonus.

Try one, he enters in for 1 year, no bonus, can change MOS. Can then Re enlist after the year ( on current policy) for the 15,000 dollar enlistment bonus lump sum.


He can enlist for the State OCS program, this he does not talk to a OSM as the major talks to. Mostly the OSM talk to prior officers, not enlisted wanting to become officers.

The state OCS program or enlistment option 09S , now enlisting in this option means your husband is NOT elligable to recieve ANY bonuses or entitlements from SRIP ( selective reserve incentive program). so no bonuses, the state OCS is a 16 month long course 1 weekend a month.

These are the options for your husband, the info can be found for OCS in the

Enlistment Criteria Manual Fiscal Year 07 chapter 3 para 3-5

The bonuses can be found on SRIP Policy FY 07 dated 1 october 2006 good through december 31 2006 Policy Number 07-01

Any more questions please feel free to contact me

Also Sgtblack82 is incorect on the fact that he cannot go OCS right off the bat, he can with the 09S enlistment option, also i do not know why they are pushing 92W other than it might be closer to your home than other MOSs. Also AGR can be from enlisted or officers not just officers, but you cannot apply to AGR till you are already in the national guard. Also "technicaly" you cannot take a bonus if you are enlisting for the purpose to go AGR or Mil Tech , as it states on all bonus contracts.

Also Remaining IRR time does not make a recruiter less excited, and most of the time a soldier with IRR time is actualy easier to deal with than a non prior individual. Basicaly in recruiter world a enlistment is a enlistment is a enlistment.

Also at any time you can switch recruiters, its actualy quite simple. You simple write a letter/email to the recruiters Area Team leader requesting for one reason or another to change recruiters, That team leader will make it happen, The team leader probably would not mind hearing your story/concernes as the team leader is a very experience recruiter ( usualy 10 plus years in recruiting).

So i add once more any questions please feel free to contact me