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Dasco00
October 18th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Does the National guard take people with a mild color blindness?
tanikir
October 19th, 2006, 01:07 AM
Yes and no, it will take people who are color blind. But, they can only join a few MOSs
VTguard
October 19th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Define "mild color blindness." The MOSes with no color vision requirements are:
Band, 31C, 42E, 43M, 57E, 71D (27D), 71G (91G), 71M, 75B, 75H, and 92M.
MOSes that only require Red/Green color vision are:
11B, 11C, 13B, 13C, 13E, 62E, 62F, 63B, and 88M.
marine
October 19th, 2006, 09:40 AM
It is waiverable and here is the reason why.
I am an Infantry Sergeant. I am officially colorblind by DoD medical standards. I am actually color deficient.
The Dod/MEPS definition of colorblind is the resultant assessment after an applicant fails the Ishihara color test (dots) and then a retest using the Falant lamp test.
There are many forms of 'color blindness', these test most. However, the problem lies in the fact it cannot distinguish color deficiencies from true color blindness.
I can only see, say, 10 shades of a base color where some can see 11.
The true measure, and the actual regulation, is that you must be able to distinguish VIVID red from VIVID green. For example, a traffic light. If you can do this, you can request a waiver. It’s up to the attending physician.
The regulation is in place, in theory, if you can’t see those major differences in color; you will have trouble making out camouflaged objects.
In my opinion, It’s a huge gap in the regulation-to-testing in the entrance process. Be prepared to hunker down and ‘fight’ for the waiver. It may be hard to get some folks to think outside the box.
I was shocked when I learned of the color blindness restriction in Army Infantry, I understand it, but most American males have some form of color deficiency and the Marines DO NOT have the same restriction (as all Marines are infantry).
Anthony
October 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
Define "mild color blindness." The MOSes with no color vision requirements are:
Band, 31C, 42E, 43M, 57E, 71D (27D), 71G (91G), 71M, 75B, 75H, and 92M.
MOSes that only require Red/Green color vision are:
11B, 11C, 13B, 13C, 13E, 62E, 62F, 63B, and 88M.
Juat wondering are there any color vision requirements for 31B or 91W ?
Thanks,
Anthony
Jeffery Crayon
December 8th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Went to MEPS, scored a high score my on ASBAV, passed every test (so I thought) and right as I was sitting down to sign my papers, another gentleman was thumbing through my physical results, and found I was color blind. It apparently was completly looked over.
I was blindsided and crushed, as I had gotten in a dream MOS for me, which I was no longer qualified. My recruiter informed me that I could actually go in as another MOS, and after 2 years or so, I could change over to my original MOS, reason being having previous service would make it much easier to change, and the color blindness would be disregarded, so to speak. I wanted to confirm that this would indeed be the case.
Its not going to change my decision, I want to know if I can set going back to my original as a goal to attain or not. I don't want to be surprised again.
Recruiter yosis
December 8th, 2008, 05:56 PM
ahhhh no that's a load of BS.
that's like enlisting as a radio man (color-blind) then becoming EOD.
HR NCO
December 9th, 2008, 01:15 PM
yeah...if you cant tell whether to cut the blue or the green wire to stop the **** from blowing up, then its not gonna matter how long you've been in. But...it is possible that there are some other jobs you might be able to transfer in to later. But, I would not enlist on the sole basis that you can get the job you want later.
QuantumRN
December 9th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Jeffery Crayon is a cute name for someone who is color blind! LMAO:D
hrotccadet
December 14th, 2008, 01:26 AM
Jeffery Crayon is a cute name for someone who is color blind! LMAO:D
LOL that was so great and that it was so mean....:D
HereWeGoAgain
December 14th, 2008, 02:44 AM
I don't get it. Does the Army cure your color blindness if you've been in 2 years??? If you're color blind then you'll always be that way, so if you're not qualified now you probably will never be. Like the screen name though.... It's original.
Jeffery Crayon
December 14th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Thanks, though its also a throwback to Washington Irvings pen name when he first started writing. My favorite author of American Literature.
The deal is, I'm not color blind. I can see colors just like everyone else (responding to the blue wire quote). I can even see the different green/red colors on the charts, I just can't see the shapes. (something I've learned that is actually called shape colorblind)
Hence the question.
yeah...if you cant tell whether to cut the blue or the green wire to stop the **** from blowing up, then its not gonna matter how long you've been in. But...it is possible that there are some other jobs you might be able to transfer in to later. But, I would not enlist on the sole basis that you can get the job you want later.
Thank you. Advice that I will pursue.
cheeseman
December 17th, 2008, 06:27 PM
You could always be a 68W
ahsan
December 17th, 2008, 06:34 PM
You could always be a 68W
Regardless of that, being colorblind in the Army severely limits your options. You can't go to jump school, Ranger School, pathfinder, RSLC. Can never go SF, etc...if you're into that kind of a thing...
627th Heavy Dive Team
December 18th, 2008, 09:59 AM
You could always become an Army National Guard diver.
California Major
February 6th, 2009, 08:01 PM
Being color blind disqualifies you from WHICH MOS's?
Combat Engineer is one, because the det cord has a stripe, and so does time fuse...don't want to mix those up...
What OTHER MOS?
Recruiter yosis
February 6th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Being color blind disqualifies you from WHICH MOS's?
Combat Engineer is one, because the det cord has a stripe, and so does time fuse...don't want to mix those up...
What OTHER MOS?
I know 88M, 68W, or 25C the ones you are allowed for sure.
I want to say finance and admin are the other two.
The best answer for that question would be to look in the MOS guideline ref. reg. Which would give you a break down with color-blindness.
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/branches.html
tyler1124
February 6th, 2009, 08:33 PM
thats funny, we have a guy who is color blind as a 68w in our RSP, he was denied 11b, but given 68w. He said he has it bad. Although, that might just be the recruiter, he also put in a guy with no thumb(blew it off) into 11b.
Waivers waivers waivers lol
Recruiter yosis
February 6th, 2009, 10:44 PM
you don't need a wavier to get in for that. You are limited to the jobs that you can enlist for.
Leo925
February 6th, 2009, 10:58 PM
I failed the first color test, but passed the Lantern test. My job list went form 87 to like 5. Is it possible to get a color vision waiver for a job you really wanted?
Recruiter yosis
February 6th, 2009, 11:01 PM
no I wish there was.