6 Days Till Graduation

[azIce]

5 more days until we turn blue and 6 more days until graduation! Then off to airborne school. Just got all my med stuff and PT test info for my airborne packet. I'm beyond ready to be outta this place. We lost about 100 guys from our company so we will be graduation about 135. Recovery weeks s u c k. We've only got about 2 hours of sleep the past 3 nights. So much for recovery.

Honor Hill was cool by the way. The final 15 mile ruck was no fun after probably 30 miles of rucking through the hills of Georgia for FTX, but was beyond worth it to walk to Honor Hill.

[o13starsnstripes]

5 more days until we turn blue and 6 more days until graduation! Then off to airborne school. Just got all my med stuff and PT test info for my airborne packet. I'm beyond ready to be outta this place. We lost about 100 guys from our company so we will be graduation about 135. Recovery weeks s u c k. We've only got about 2 hours of sleep the past 3 nights. So much for recovery.

Honor Hill was cool by the way. The final 15 mile ruck was no fun after probably 30 miles of rucking through the hills of Georgia for FTX, but was beyond worth it to walk to Honor Hill.

100 guys? Damm what happened?

[azIce]

100 guys? Damm what happened?
Delta 1-50 happened.

Broken, EPTS, ELS, mental probs, some were forced out.

[o13starsnstripes]

I assume some were PT failures?

[chd]

Delta 1-50 happened.

Broken, EPTS, ELS, mental probs, some were forced out.

Nice... and...

Congratulations.

[Hanson]

I assume some were PT failures?

When i went through we lost a few to PT failures. From our platoon it was probably around 2-3, but at the company level it was a bit higher. They just got recycled. It's not like they were sent home (well, two of them were, but they had already been recycled).

[o13starsnstripes]

When i went through we lost a few to PT failures. From our platoon it was probably around 2-3, but at the company level it was a bit higher. They just got recycled. It's not like they were sent home (well, two of them were, but they had already been recycled).

Really makes you wonder just in how bad of shape were they

[7011USMC]

Really makes you wonder just in how bad of shape were they

Majority "gave up" before they even went down the trail! The "shock and awe" of recruit training well is shocking to the weak minded. Then the hypochondriacs come out of the woodwork!

They see the easy way out of training is to go to sick call. Then profile after profile. The majority are the smack talkers that say I'm gonna do this and that....they are lucky to make through week 4 before being sent home. Once home then they talk about how the Army lied to them.

Pathetic weak "generation Y" couch potatoes that can't live without their gadgets! You know the give me this and that generation. Wants everything given too them and the word earn is taboo. (little league syndrome everyone is a winner)

Once the "hat" has weeded the cancer from platoon (there is always a few that slip thru the cracks) usually are weeded out with in 12-18 months if there on AD (give them enough rope they will hang themselves).

Name a Piece that can't pass a APFT after 10 weeks of BCT...if so they should be recycled back to TD1. Afford the recruit to redue BCT after that FIRE his or her sorry-ness. Send bill to SNS (subject named soldier) to repay the US government for waste and defrauding the American taxpayer!

[NJ732]

Not all of my generation is like that :D

There's a couple good ones!

[7011USMC]

Not all of my generation is like that :D

There's a couple good ones!

Of course there are alot of good ones! However, our society is engendering "equalism" within the public school systems, and in a democracy there is noting equal except protection afforded to its citizenry within the consitution.

Some recruits have never had their parents raise there voice at them, busted their hind ends, or even got into a fist fight. Some have never left there family, had wives and girlfriend break-ups, or been without a cell phone/Ipod/Xbox/lap top more than a day!

Add in the "shock and awe" of the DS your world comes crumbling down quick, fast, and in a hurry! Thats why the failures in graduations. PT failures has little to do it.

Surely a "tool" can pass a APFT with a 50/50/50 after 10 weeks.....

[kswat07]

Of course there are alot of good ones! However, our society is engendering "equalism" within the public school systems, and in a democracy there is noting equal except protection afforded to its citizenry within the consitution.

Some recruits have never had their parents raise there voice at them, busted their hind ends, or even got into a fist fight. Some have never left there family, had wives and girlfriend break-ups, or been without a cell phone/Ipod/Xbox/lap top more than a day!

Add in the "shock and awe" of the DS your world comes crumbling down quick, fast, and in a hurry! Thats why the failures in graduations. PT failures has little to do it.

Surely a "tool" can pass a APFT with a 50/50/50 after 10 weeks.....
Amen! Couldn't have said it better myself. Now tell us how you really feel. LOL;)

[azIce]

Graduate tomorrow, then off to airborne school. Turning Blue was a cool ceremony. Wow... we can't sing... lol

And yes, some of the guys were PT recycles. Not very many though. Maybe three.

[7011USMC]

Congrats on earning your "blue cord"! Good luck at airborne.

[Phantom]

Good Deal, now go get rid of that LEG status, its stinking up the place.

[SteveGuard]

Majority "gave up" before they even went down the trail! The "shock and awe" of recruit training well is shocking to the weak minded. Then the hypochondriacs come out of the woodwork!

They see the easy way out of training is to go to sick call. Then profile after profile. The majority are the big talkers that say I'm gonna do this and that....they are lucky to make thru week 4 before being sent home. Once home then they talk about how the Army lied to them.

Pathetic weak "generation Y" couch potatoes that can't live without their gadgets! You know the give me this and that generation. Wants everthing given too them and the word earn is taboo. (little league syndrome everyone is a winner)

Once the "hat" has weeded the cancer from platoon (there is always a few that slip thru the cracks) usually are weeded out with in 12-18 months if there on AD (give them enough rope they will hang themselves).

Name a Piece that can't pass a APFT after 10 weeks of BCT...if so they should be recycled back to TD1. Afford the recruit to redue BCT after that FIRE his or her sorry self. Send bill to SNS (subject named soldier) to repay the US government for waste and defrauding the American taxpayer!

I was in hold-under status at my BCT while I was waiting for a Security Clearance to go to Huachuca. You remind me of all the Drill Sergeants (who had assumed I had failed BCT, because me and everyone else waiting for clearances was grouped with the failures for Chow and barracks living) who would tell me "Thanks for wasting the Governments money! You're a waste of space private!" amongst other non-colorful comments. One Drill Sergeant even took a particular "liking" to me, and for the next week every time I ate in his Chow-Hall, he would rag on me for about 15 minutes just to hear me say "Yes, Drill Sergeant" about 50 times. I do not know to this date why he was so focused on me , heh.



This was severely depressing, considering I had passed my BCT with honors - but was held indefinitely in limbo at the mercy of Drill Sergeants who were sure that I was stealing their valuable tax money haha. So when are you gonna be the Army's Crustiest Drill Sergeant 7011USMC?

[7011USMC]

So when are you gonna be the Army's Crustiest Drill Sergeant 7011USMC?

You must have been the exception. Somethings never change though. There will always be that 10% that SCAMS the system. I applaud your DS for weeding the cancer.

Sure there maybe a "few" of the good ones left and need time for being a hold over. However, empirical experience in dealing with troops....usually have to side that there are worthless birds and they are the weakest link!

As a seasoned NCO I always took care of my troopers in my charge! Kinda like you take care of me....I'LL BE YOUR BIGGEST ALLY....you ruin me....It's all day long 24/7/365.

People respond to different stimuli....Postive reinforcement/negative reinforcement. I don't sugarcoat; Yet I'm not beyond reproach either. Mission first though mentality.

You must lead by example....not "do as I say not as I do". Somebody has to be in charge and sometimes it a MF'er.

I stand buy my assessment of the "Y" generation. Kids coming in today have no clue. Parents never beat them, rarely raise there voice in fear of damaging "free thought or self esteem", and most never been in a fist fight and took a "kicking".

Awesome learning evolution to experience the "thrill of victory and agony of defeat". I love to see people lose their sense's due to having no cell phone/myface/spacebook.....or gadgets.



Military isn't for the "weak minded or hearted". **** it up and drive on.

[o13starsnstripes]

Well just to first correct something the United States is NOT a democracy were a Republic. Now there of course is alot of truth to what you just said but for some who weren't just up to it that doesn't make them bad people but they just need more reinforcement thats all. I try not to judge anyone else besides thats for the Man upstairs to do not me.

[o13starsnstripes]

Graduate tomorrow, then off to airborne school. Turning Blue was a cool ceremony. Wow... we can't sing... lol

And yes, some of the guys were PT recycles. Not very many though. Maybe three.

Congradulations!

[7011USMC]

Well just to first correct something the United States is NOT a democracy were a Republic. Now there of course is alot of truth to what you just said but for some who weren't just up to it that doesn't make them bad people but they just need more reinforcement thats all. I try not to judge anyone else besides thats for the Man upstairs to do not me.

Of course its the Man upstairs job to judge. However, when you in charge of a body of troops in one big "hodge podge" they (DS) have 10 weeks to mold and mentor recruits into soldiers.

That entails indoctrinating young men and women into service. "Shock and awe" for the majority of the newbies if you will. Some adapt alot won't.

These skilled NCO's are trained to evaluate and rid "dead weight". Once your in you'll know what I'm talking about. There in all branches of service and unfortuanately somebody has the job to train soldiers.

It is not all "peaches and creme".....Some of my best chewins came from compassionate yet gritty Officers. However, to see the look of disappointment on there face was enough for me.

I never wanted to let down or disgrace my officers, command, or my SgtMaj.

When I was a young trooper in early 1980's....I'd hear how soft of troopers we were. Can you imagine 1Sgt or SgtMaj that was a Korean war vet telling you that.

[scjohnny]

Anyone other than me see the irony of this post?

(The guy in BASIC TRAINING using the internet to post his status.
And the sermon about 'gadgets'.)
Almost as good as my fellow Officer Candidates stories about sleeping
in their wall lockers last year at basic.

HA!



This is why I have to refrain from slapping people
when they question my Air Force Basic Training from 1992.

[7011USMC]

This is why I have to refrain from slapping people
when they question my Air Force Basic Training from 1992.

Easy does it stud. 6 weeks at Lackland made you hardcore.

[scjohnny]

HA!
Good one.

More of a stud than I would be if I had to go to Army
boot camp last year. But admittedly I'd be better at
cadence and PT!

Hey I'm old.




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