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AF Josh2
September 23rd, 2009, 10:37 PM
Can I attend ROTC if I already have a degree?? I just went through the TAP Class and learned how lucrative the Post 911 GI bill really is and I am going to go back to school. UC Berkeley has an ROTC program and it says I can join the Cal Guard or Reserve does anyone know if this is true??? I will likely go to OCS, but I like to weigh my options. Thanks for any input..

Rhadamanthus
September 23rd, 2009, 11:04 PM
You can be an ROTC cadet as a graduate student. Everything else is also true. If you have two years of schooling left, I would suggest ROTC.

I'm very surprised that UC Berkeley has an ROTC program. Maybe I shouldn't because it is a state school, but it's also Berkeley.

AF Josh2
September 23rd, 2009, 11:32 PM
Thank you for the response. So if I have an MBA already am I disqualified? I look to pocket 4K a month from the GI bill without grants and scholarships. I emailed the Det. CPT.

You would likely be surprised how much people actually love the military in Nor California. But I am stationed at Travis AFB about 40 mins from Berkeley there are a lot of military retired. They have a military sciences degree which is very interesting to me and maybe I could teach later. Thanks again for the info.

dnall
September 24th, 2009, 11:34 AM
It doesn't matter if you have an MBA already. You can be working on a PhD if that's what you need to do. There's some age restrictions that can be waived. I'm not the ROTC expert though, you need to work with the cadre there.

I would say in general if you can do ROTC, it's more lucrative (especially with SMP) than OCS.

California Major
September 24th, 2009, 11:37 AM
UC Davis also has a program, I think. A Captain I know teaches there.

matthew.ritchie
September 24th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Thank you for the response. So if I have an MBA already am I disqualified? I look to pocket 4K a month from the GI bill without grants and scholarships. I emailed the Det. CPT.

You would likely be surprised how much people actually love the military in Nor California. But I am stationed at Travis AFB about 40 mins from Berkeley there are a lot of military retired. They have a military sciences degree which is very interesting to me and maybe I could teach later. Thanks again for the info.

The issue with ROTC is that you must attend a university with an ROTC program (or arrangement with a neighboring program) for four years full-time (or two years, if you have completed Army Basic Training and AIT, or ROTC's LTC summer training). If you're not attending school full-time, then ROTC is a non-starter.

In addition, ROTC doesn't want to commission you much past age 30 (even though they can, they don't want to), so depending on your projected age at commissioning, you should address that issue with the ROTC cadre in the first conversation.

49thadband
September 24th, 2009, 05:03 PM
Thank you for the response. So if I have an MBA already am I disqualified? I look to pocket 4K a month from the GI bill without grants and scholarships. I emailed the Det. CPT.

You would likely be surprised how much people actually love the military in Nor California. But I am stationed at Travis AFB about 40 mins from Berkeley there are a lot of military retired. They have a military sciences degree which is very interesting to me and maybe I could teach later. Thanks again for the info.


Man, you are on the right track! I wish I had known the shortage of ROTC instructors around here. North Texas, area, especially Dallas there is always an opening for an ROTC teacher. I'm a teacher, but I didn't get enough rank to teach ROTC. They want any officer, or E-7 and above, I'm pretty sure.
I have no idea what else they would want you to teach, probably history, something like that.

Good luck!

AF Josh2
September 25th, 2009, 12:26 AM
Heres the deal for this particular Detachment. I must go for another Masters degree and finish it within 2 years, so that is full time. At UC Berkeley that is a tough option, because this is a very very tough school (no matter how you feel about its politics).

The Golden Bear Battallion is also partnered with 15 schools in the Bay area that I can attend and a few of them are actually decent choices.

http://army.berkeley.edu/

Age is 39 for acceptance and must commission before 41 with a waiver. Since I am prior service 10 years A/D this is an easy waiver to achieve according to the CPT.

So maybe on can do concurrent guard enrollment and drill as an enlisted soldier while I attend school!?! Just another option.....

matthew.ritchie
September 25th, 2009, 08:53 AM
Heres the deal for this particular Detachment. I must go for another Masters degree and finish it within 2 years, so that is full time. At UC Berkeley that is a tough option, because this is a very very tough school (no matter how you feel about its politics).

The Golden Bear Battallion is also partnered with 15 schools in the Bay area that I can attend and a few of them are actually decent choices.

http://army.berkeley.edu/

Age is 39 for acceptance and must commission before 41 with a waiver. Since I am prior service 10 years A/D this is an easy waiver to achieve according to the CPT.

So maybe on can do concurrent guard enrollment and drill as an enlisted soldier while I attend school!?! Just another option.....

Yes, this is what thousands of our Soldiers do every year. If your degree program is two years, however, then you'll need to complete Basic and AIT prior to starting ROTC. That training will substitute for the first two years of ROTC so you can complete the last two years concurrent with your degree.

dnall
September 25th, 2009, 01:15 PM
Or just take your benefits & go to school for whatever (like a PhD or whatever best serves your career situation) & go to OCS.