Former Captain/aviator wants back in

[two2fly]

I resigned my commission in 2002 and would like to return to service as an aviation warrant officer. I seperated as a UH60 rated aviator (O-3) and desperately want to be back in aviation. I currently live in Sarasota, Florida but am contemplating a move to the Houston, TX area.

Here's the catch: I have a general discharge (under HONORABLE conditions)and a negative OER potentially limiting me. Knowing the current shortages, I would hope this stain on my record could be overlooked especially under the circumstances.

[lee258]

Sir,

From reading your post you should be eligible with an approved waiver. As for UH-60 slots I don't what TX and FL have, but for LA I need to fill 15 UH-60Slots in Hammond, LA which is 50 miles north of New Orleans. I also have an email address for a recruiter in the Houston area. If you need this you can email me at arthur.kessinger@us.army.mil.

[matthew.ritchie]

I resigned my commission in 2002 and would like to return to service as an aviation warrant officer. I seperated as a UH60 rated aviator (O-3) and desperately want to be back in aviation. I currently live in Sarasota, Florida but am contemplating a move to the Houston, TX area.

Here's the catch: I have a general discharge (under HONORABLE conditions)and a negative OER potentially limiting me. The trouble I was in is fraternization related (I've since married the soldier I was seeing and she has ETS'd). Knowing the current shortages, I would hope this stain on my record could be overlooked especially under the circumstances.

You are currently ineligible for appointment as a Warrant Officer. You must have nothing less than an HONORABLE discharge (see NGR 600-101 para 2-14f). My recommendation:

Enlist as an E5
Pursue an ABCMR to upgrade your discharge.
Once your discharge has been upgraded, pursue appointment to WO.

[dceisme]

I've had experience with the Army Board for Correction to Military Records. Not to get a discharge corrected, but for other things.

The process for a board decision will take a minimum of 8-10months. When submitting your claim make sure you make a case for while your appeal wasn't submittied in a "timely" manner, which is 3 years after the injustice occured.

[two2fly]

Sir,
I read NGR 600-101, and specifically the paragraph you quoted. The regulation prohibits separated individuals under "other than honorable conditions". My discharge is a General Discharge under Honorable conditions which still qualifies me.

For those reading this post, there are four types of discharges an officer may receive. From top to bottom, there is Honorable, General (under Honorable Conditions), UOTH (which is Under Other Than Honorable) Conditions, and a Dismissal (which bears the same weight as a Bad Conduct Discharge that enlisted soldiers can get - some call this the "dishonorable" discharge. In fact there is not a discharge with such a name).

As such, I feel compelled to continue pursuit of a direct appointment to CW2. I firmly believe that any reservations concerning my character can be addressed at an interview. i appreciate your response, as I was unaware of the governing regulation. I can now drive on with my mission with the tools I need to continue.

ALCON:
I'm interested in knowing more about the aviation warrant slots available in the Houston, TX area.
Respectfully
Brian A. Jackson
UH-60 aviator

[matthew.ritchie]

Sir,
I read NGR 600-101, and specifically the paragraph you quoted. The regulation prohibits separated individuals under "other than honorable conditions". My discharge is a General Discharge under Honorable conditions which still qualifies me.

For those reading this post, there are four types of discharges an officer may receive. From top to bottom, there is Honorable, General (under Honorable Conditions), UOTH (which is Under Other Than Honorable) Conditions, and a Dismissal (which bears the same weight as a Bad Conduct Discharge that enlisted soldiers can get - some call this the "dishonorable" discharge. In fact there is not a discharge with such a name).

As such, I feel compelled to continue pursuit of a direct appointment to CW2. I firmly believe that any reservations concerning my character can be addressed at an interview. i appreciate your response, as I was unaware of the governing regulation. I can now drive on with my mission with the tools I need to continue.

ALCON:
I'm interested in knowing more about the aviation warrant slots available in the Houston, TX area.
Respectfully
Brian A. Jackson
UH-60 aviator


You're reading the reg as a person who wants something to be true even if it isn't. If you have anything other than an HONORABLE discharge, you will never be a commissioned or warrant officer. You can talk to whomever you like, and they can be convinced that you're great, but that discharge status will ultimately **** your application. You can fight the problem, or you can solve the problem. My counterpart in Texas is MAJ Scott MacLeod (scott.macleod@us.army.mil). He'll tell you the same thing.

Re-read my last posting for guidance. You are welcome to ignore me, but I'm only trying to give you the bad news up front so you can make intelligent decisions on how to proceed.

[two2fly]

Sir,
After rereading the regulation, I see there is more that I missed. I've contacted MAJ McLeod in Texas for further information. Thank you for your time.
R/
B. Jackson

[matthew.ritchie]

Sir,
After rereading the regulation, I see there is more that I missed. I've contacted MAJ McLeod in Texas for further information. Thank you for your time.
R/
B. Jackson

Excellent. I wish you the best.

My policy is that I give everyone the bad news up-front. Bad news doesn't get any better with age, so I raise all the negatives as soon as possible. That way, the applicant can make informed choices and plans.