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Drao
December 24th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Hey, this question isn't about me, but actually my father. Some time ago, he contacted a recruiter at the local office here, but he never got a response back. I'm not sure what MOS he'd want to do, but I think it would be something along the lines of nursing. Here are some of the problems:

My father is 42 years old.
He was in the Army as active duty for approximately 8 years, but that was over 15 years ago.
He doesn't have any training as a nurse or any medical training, so would need to go to college.


Is he still able to join the Guard? Here are some more questions:

He would like to go to college to be a nurse. One of the local colleges here offers an Associate in Science in Nursing degree.
Would he have to go back to basic after such a long hiatus from active duty?
What would his pay be?
Would the Guard pay for his schooling? IE: Tuition exemption, GI-Bill information, et cetera.
Is there any way he could support a family of three children and a wife if he was in the guard and went to school full time for a degree? Two of the children are special needs children.
Would he have to get a job to still do all of this stuff?
Any other information would be incredibly helpful.


Useful links would be as followed:

Regarding age: http://www.1800goguard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1522&postcount=9
Regarding the local nursing program: http://www.csc.vsc.edu/Nursing/Index.htm


Sum of Information:

Location: Vermont
Age: 42
Gender: Male
8 years prior service as MP
Previous Rank: E6
MOS Wanted: Nursing?
Drao
December 26th, 2008, 10:46 PM
Can no one help me with this?
qcomer
December 26th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Can no one help me with this?


A recruiter can, Im sure there is one locally too you.

He will have to do WTC. He will probably lose some rank.

He would either need to do ROTC +SMP (Not sure if he can do it), or get a full time job to support his family. The national guard is not natively a full time branch, so he wont be able to afford stuff that requires full time income ;)


YOUR BEST BET: GO SEE A RECRUITER!
SteveLord
December 27th, 2008, 02:26 AM
I believe he is fine in regards to age. I think it has to be no later than age 55 for his next scheduled ETS.

He would probably have to attend Warrior Transition Course. A transitional course for other service branches or prior army that had a long absence.

Maintaining rank would be unlikley I think. Because it was rank obtained with THAT MOS and it was 15 years ago. After a certain amount of years, you lose your rank attained. I am betting E4 pay. Which is like $200ish a drill after taxes.

Closest MOS would be 68W/Healthcare Specialist/Medic. Liklihood of a full time guard position for this MOS is slim to none. goto www.fulltimeguard.com as there are still ways to do full time without MOS requirements.

As for Nursing. He could go onto being an RN straight from completing Nursing School and having a diploma. Degrees are nice, but only really valuable in terms of management or higher positions. Or working for the state. As an RN, there are lots of different ways to work. Per diem, travel, full time, etc.

See a recruiter to get specifics.
Frisco
December 27th, 2008, 07:39 PM
He won't have to attend WTC. I was out 20 years and didn't have to go. I've posted the regulation elsewhere on this board, but bottom line is that if he was Army or Marines and coming into the National Guard, he won't go to WTC.

Also, probably too old to commission, so ROTC ain't gonna happen.
SteveLord
December 27th, 2008, 10:52 PM
He won't have to attend WTC. I was out 20 years and didn't have to go. I've posted the regulation elsewhere on this board, but bottom line is that if he was Army or Marines and coming into the National Guard, he won't go to WTC.

Also, probably too old to commission, so ROTC ain't gonna happen.

I've seen stories here of it being pushed on some (along with some who never went anyway). And when I re-upped my recruiter even mentioned it by saying "you werent out long enough so you dont have to worry about WTC"

I personally think its a good thing to do for long service breaks. Plus, you get paid.
oldfossil
February 12th, 2009, 02:07 AM
if your father did 8 years active and his age now is 42, for enlistment purpose, would be like he is only 34, as you deduct the amount of prior service from his age, as long as he would have 20 years by the time he is 62.
That is if he is enlisted. However if he were to go to school full time in a nursing program and finished in three years it would be like he was only 37 and because the medical field is different just as a chaplain he could quite possibly get an age waiver for a commission as a nurse.
SPC Ski
February 12th, 2009, 09:27 AM
42 + the number of years, months and days of your prior service


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