View Full Version : Have to move??
FarNorCal
November 21st, 2008, 06:02 PM
Hello just got done with the ASVAB.
Scored a 92, was hoping for 95 but oh well (scored a 92 like 13 years ago was hoping i would be older and wiser).
Was considering 25B ( I allready work on computers... with certs, almost have my AA in Networking ) Or a 89D it sounds explosive!!!!!!! Or a 68A any one know where there is openings for these types of jobs. State and town info would be nice! Would like to go to OCS as well, however it that gets fubard for what ever reason I don't want to be stuck with some truck driver job or something. With the bridge unit that is in my area.
Thanks for any info you can come up with!
WO1 Quinones
November 21st, 2008, 06:10 PM
its just fubar without the d.
SteveLord
November 21st, 2008, 06:15 PM
If you're already technically adept, you might want to consider going Warrant Officer as soon as you can in your career. Will put you in a more administrative type of role with good pay and benefits.
FarNorCal
November 21st, 2008, 06:17 PM
would fubar'd be better.. I think it flows better that way.
FarNorCal
November 21st, 2008, 06:18 PM
I"ve thought about it. It will take quite a while though going to Warrant... If my memory is correct I would need to be an E-5 before I got a shot at it. And since I do not posses my Bachelors, it could take awhile.
WO1 Quinones
November 21st, 2008, 06:28 PM
Yes if you want to fast track; then go the OCS route. To go to Warrant, you have to serve some years before applying. I am a signal warrant (251A) and talked to my NG brethen and they gave me the details about their experiences applying for warrant. I have no certs, just an AS and BS in IT and now working on my Masters in Management Information Systems. I have to go for my Security+ next month. Its required by all signal warrants now. So if you dont have it; then take the test and knock it out.
The position is not administrative but technical and you will be in charge of soldiers. I have to have a meeting with my PS after I get the whole lowdown with my boss (Major) next week. You train and manage soldiers as well.
"The Army WO is a self–aware and adaptive technical expert, combat leader, trainer, and advisor. Through progressive levels of expertise in assignments, training, and education, the WO administers, manages, maintains, operates, and integrates Army systems and equipment across the full spectrum of Army operations. Warrant Officers are innovative integrators of emerging technologies, dynamic teachers, confident warfighters, and developers of specialized teams of soldiers. They support a wide range of Army missions throughout their career. Warrant officers in the Army are accessed with specific levels of technical ability. They refine their technical expertise and develop their leadership and management skills through tiered progressive assignment and education."
(Para 3-5, DA Pamphlet 600-3, Dec 2005)
Further clarification of the role of a warrant officer is found in FM 6-22
“Warrant officers possess a high degree of specialization in a particular field in contrast to the more general assignment pattern of other commissioned officers. Warrant officers command aircraft, maritime vessels, special units, and task organized operational elements. In a wide variety of units and headquarters specialties, warrants provide quality advice, counsel, and solutions to support their unit or organization. They operate, maintain, administer, and manage the Army‘s equipment, support activities, and technical systems. Warrant officers are competent and confident warriors, innovative integrators of emerging technologies, dynamic teachers, and developers of specialized teams of Soldiers. Their extensive professional experience and technical knowledge qualifies warrant officers as invaluable role models and mentors for junior officers and NCOs.”
(Para 3-12, Field Manual 6-22, Approved Final Draft)
The Army Warrant Officer Corps is comprised of over 25,000 men and women of the active Army and reserve components (http://usawocc.army.mil/RC/index.htm). Warrant officers are technical experts that manage and maintain increasingly complex battlefield systems. They enhance the Army's ability to defend our national interests, and to fight and win our nations wars.
FarNorCal
November 21st, 2008, 07:46 PM
If you have a BA in IT then the security+ should be of no trouble at all. I got my cert for the CCNA aboout 7 years ago, it was by far the the most difficult test I had ever taken (i'm one of the sick ones that acutally enjoys testing). The A+ is nothing... more jokeable than anything else, as is the network +.
So.... anyone on those locations???
SteveLord
November 21st, 2008, 10:10 PM
If you have a BA in IT then the security+ should be of no trouble at all. I got my cert for the CCNA aboout 7 years ago, it was by far the the most difficult test I had ever taken (i'm one of the sick ones that acutally enjoys testing). The A+ is nothing... more jokeable than anything else, as is the network +.
So.... anyone on those locations???
Do not dump on Certs. A+ and Net+ have their purpose just like the rest.
WO1 Quinones
November 22nd, 2008, 08:35 AM
Do not dump on Certs. A+ and Net+ have their purpose just like the rest.
Exactly. You have to test for them as well. They are just straight forward testing unlike the tricking of the CCNA. That is how Cisco does their testing compared to CompTIA.
Since you took yours 7 years ago; you have to re-certify.
On the same token, I know techs with Certs left and right but cant even do basic troubleshooting vice techs with no Certs that will run circles around them.
Just know your job basically....
SPC Ski
November 22nd, 2008, 09:06 AM
a recruiter in your state has access to minuteman and can see all the open slots all over the state. Cali Capt may also be able to see that...Sir?
andrew.tischner
November 22nd, 2008, 09:07 AM
Unit explorer is your friend recruiters
California Major
November 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM
The techie stuff is going to be in Sacramento or Los Alamitos...Otherwise its an E-4 or civilian billett.
But even then, you are waiting in line behind a local favorite that needed a slot to promote, and well, he's got an underpaid staff to do the job so he can learn on the job. I tend to tell my brighter LTs that they are too talented to get ****** into OTAG.
Go to your local unit and talk to the full-time guys (besides the recruiter) and ask them about their AGR career. They can give you a pretty good picture of what its been like. You start out in one field, but change frequently as the needs of the Guard changes, or as it comes time to promote. And that usually means moving.
Now if you REALLY like technical stuff, consider a Civil Support Team. The tempo is pretty high, and some burn out after a few years, but talk about high-tech. Our Northern team in in Hayward. I can link you up with one of their former officers who now works full time in my Battalion Headquarters in Santa Rosa.
California Major
November 23rd, 2008, 06:26 PM
Was considering 25B, Or a 89D it sounds explosive!!!!!!! Or a 68A any one know where there is openings for these types of jobs.
68A used to be in Sacramento on Meadowview...Medical units in the bay area may have 68As, but not full time. The Guard may contract out repairs, or the Stockton shop may do it.
EOD: www.calguard.ca.gov/217eod/Documents/EODinfo.pdf
We have one EOD team, and they have been talking about standing up aother. Big complaint I have heard about EOD is that the school is over a year, and the status you are serving in doesn't allow for BAH to be paid...so the loss in pay for one year is pretty substantial. I don't know if they resolved that issue yet, or if there is a resolution.