Reentry Waiver Question (prior service)

[alloutwar]

i am a prior service who is trying to enlist in the national guard. i recieved an honorable discharge and have a reentry code of 3 with a separation code of jkk (I was chaptered for failing one pee test) I talked to a ng recruiter and he said that i have to get a waiver which i already knew from reading posts on here. I was just wondering if anyone knows how difficult it is to get this waiver and if so how long does it take. Also, it says i have to have completed rehab and go to a program in support of sobriety. Has anyone ever ard of this waiver and if so how hard is it to get? any help would be much appreciated. thanks

[dpwilson4311]

It's hard from my experiance. It is one of the longest waivers that you have to wait on. Yes if I am not mistaken you do have to go through some type of rehab before they will even consider it. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[alloutwar]

i seems very silly to go to rehab for something i only did once. However i am willing to do it and trying to finagle it, maybe a two week program or something. does it have to be a inhouse rehab or like na or something? I got character references from 3 retire military people, and both of my bosses. I really hope i can get a waiver.

[VTguard]

You don't have to do an in-house rehab, you just need to complete a drug and alcohol counseling program. Depending on the place you go, you may only need to attend a few sessions. You just need to have a letter or something from the counselor saying that you have completed the required sessions.

[alloutwar]

thanks i appreciate the help with this..has anyone on here ever seen anyone get a waiver for this? and if so how hard is it. My other questionis if go to a counseling session now after six yearsfor this do you think it will have an affect on me getting a waiver? I really appreciate everyones help.

[marine]

I just MEPS'd yesterday. I recieved a waiver for an RE-4. It can be done. Keep hardcharging. Its earned in sweat, prepartion, and research.

[alloutwar]

i do not have a re4 but everyone says how hard it is to get a waiver with out being specific about it. you can't just say it is a lot of hard work...it tells everyone who needs to know something absolutley nothing

[pfc_elfK]

I don't have an answer for you, but I do wish you well. Good luck, I'm sure you'll get everything in order.:)

[alloutwar]

i don't mean to be snappy but i am just trying to get a better idea of what's ahead of me and i can't find any specific details.

[Echo]

Waivers (approval)

We have a "standard answer" when it comes to ANY waiver. There is simply no way to even guess whether or not a waiver will be approved, even if someone has gotten a waiver for the same condition in the past, or -- conversely -- if nobody has ever gotten a waiver for the condition in the past. Each and every waiver is evaluated INDIVIDUALLY, using SEVERAL individual factors, including but not limited to:

1. Is the condition progressive?

2. Is the condition subject to aggravation by military service?

3. Will the condition preclude satisfactory completion of prescribed training and subsequent military duty?

4. Will the condition constitute an undue hazard to the examine or to others, particularly under combat conditions?

5. Is the recruit *EXCEPTIONALLY* qualified, otherwise? (ASVAB scores, etc.)

6. How are current recruiting goals? How bad does that particular branch of the service need this particular applicant at this particular point-in-time?
There have been several cases of waivers approved for a specific condition, only to see a waiver disapproved for the same condition just a few weeks later.

Remember, if you require a waiver, that means that you are disqualified for military service. The waiver procedure is the process of you "begging" the military to make an exception in your particular case. There is no "right" to have a waiver approved.

For more information about the waiver process, see the information page about waivers, available on the U.S. Military Site Home, under the subject category for Joining the Military.

Waivers (How Long)

There is simply no way to guess how long it will take a waiver request to make it through the approval process. Different waivers have different levels of review and approval. For example, a waiver for too many traffic tickets may be approved (depending on the service) by the commander of the recruiting squadron. However, a waiver for more serious offenses may have to go all the way up the chain to the "big chief" of recruiting for the entire service. A medical waiver usually must go all the way up to the service's Surgeon General's Office. A couple of things to remember: (1) The folks who review/approve the waivers have other duties to perform, as well. Your waiver may not be priority, when it comes to these other duties. (2) You're not the only child on the playground when it comes to waivers. Hundreds of other waivers are going through the process, as well, and each and every one of them must be evaluated individually.

Remember, if you require a waiver, that means that you are disqualified for military service. The waiver procedure is the process of you "begging" the military to make an exception in your particular case.

Here's more INFORMATION (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/l/blwaivers.htm)

[alloutwar]

echo i really appreciate the help. very helpful and informative. thanks a lot.

[marine]

i do not have a re4 but everyone says how hard it is to get a waiver with out being specific about it. you can't just say it is a lot of hard work...it tells everyone who needs to know something absolutley nothing


I'll translate.
it is a lot of hard work = you will have to do your own research and will physically have to do your own pushing, etc.

research=find the EXACT Army regulations that address your exact issue(s) and find out what you must do to best postion yourself

pushing= you do all the labor, pull all the forms, assemble alll the packages, etc.

Good Luck.