Any 91Ws out there?

[bushmdc]

Hey, I was wondering if there is any 91Ws out there that can give me a heads up on what to expect @ BCT and AIT? I'll be attending the entire portion of AIT since I let my Paramedic National Registry lapse. BTW, I'll probally be shipping out to BCT in early September. Any feedback will be appreciated. Going to be going to BCT @ Ft. Leonard Wood then AIT 2 Ft. Sam Houston. Thanks!!!

[catie11]

Hey I am a 91W what do you want to know?

SPC Kinnick

[bushmdc]

What's AIT like? How many finished in your class? What did you do for 16 weeks?

[catie11]

Well, the first portion of AIT is just EMT classes and then taking the NREMT. The second portion is you combat medic portion where you learn what army procedures are... You do IV's, blood draws, patient carries, setting up a casualty point, triage, loading into an army ambulance, loading into an operating helicopter (you actually get to ride as a "casualty" in one, and at the end you have a 1 week FTX. Basically you stay in air conditioned/heated tents...you sleep on cots and you get to take showers every night. Being a medic is awesome. Ok here is how the 91W course works. Each test that you take you have two chances. If you lets say fail a test and take it again and pass you get to continue with the course. If you take the test a second time and fail (double tap) you get bumped back to the company that came in right after yours. You then have another chance to take the test. If you fail again you are reclassed and are given an MOS based on what the army's needs are at that time. Only about 150 out of 380 passed in my class and that was including some people that had gotten bumped back from the company infront of us. The course is not hard if you are smart and if you study. Being a 16 week course you do eventually get priviledges like staying off post from friday night to sunday afternoon. A lot of people were stupid and would go out the whole weekend and not spend time studying. Anything else you would like to know?

SPC Kinnick

[muscletx]

Hello, I am new to this forum and thinking of joining the ARNG in Colorado. I was wondering if in the AIT for MOS 91W....is everyone young? I am 37, I get along with all tyes of people and see myself as an asset....yea...just want to be challenged and serve my community and country. I am working as a staff therapist doing injury and rehab for ortho patients( mainly manual therapy and stretching).
My boyfriend is a Medic in the ANG...I'm too old to join the ANG, but they suggested the ARNG. He has had such a rewarding career as a Medic and I feel like I would enjoy it. Any feedback you can offer would be appreciated!

Life Changing in Colorado!

[catie11]

Most of the people are young yes, but there are those few that are older. Everyone is the same when you are in training. Everyone is friends and all the females ban together. You will definitely enjoy being a medic.

SPC Kinnick

[bushmdc]

So, when are skills for national registry done? After 6 weeks or after the whole Whiskey program?

[northmsemt]

Ok, I am a nremt-b and have about 2yrs experience on the job. was wondering if during ait I would have to repeat that training or if I would just start with the medic training? and if so would I be able to take the NR for paramedic before or after taking additional "civilian" courses such as ecg recognition or the ladder? any info would be apprecitated as I am in the process of my enlistment paperwork.

[catie11]

I'm not sure if I understand your question. I will try to answer it to the best of my ability but if I do not answer your questions feel free to send me a private message. Ok, since you are a NREMT-B you should be able to skip that portion of the course. Make sure to bring all your documentation with you to FT Sam Houston so that when you get to your company you can tell them that you have already completed it. Hopefully they can bump you up to a company that is already passed the NREMT course. I'm not sure what you were asking about for the paramedic. You will only get the NREMT-B in training. If you want to get your NREMT-paramedic outside the military they will accept that too. Did I answer your questions?

SPC Kinnick

[tex8ball]

Being a 91 whiskey can you go out with an infantry or cav unit and provide minor wounds, or do you wait till needed.

[LRSU_Dog]

Medics assigned to line units such as Infantry and Cav will normally be assigend a team or squad that they will travel with and be part of, which includes patrols, etc. Keep in mind that how medics are distributed in any unit is a facet of a command decison. If assigned to a squad you will be the first line of medical support for that element.

In your research toward possible job options in the ARNG, you might want to try to contact a unit that you are interested in - either directly or through your recruiter - and see how they implement jobs such as medic with the unit. This would help to give you more to work with in making an MOS decision now based upon your future goals.

One caveat is that in many units, LRS for example, the teams (made up of 11B Infantryman) receive medical training is Combat Lifesavers (not the same as a medic) and the unit medic is part of the HQ. In other instances you might find yourself supporting a medical unit where the emphasis is not on patrols, but on triage and "hospital" type support.

** To the Colorado poster - Let me know if I can be of assistance as I am in Colorado and can help you get in touch with points-of-contact to help you in your research :)

[ChuckMICP2919]

I am currently a NREMT-P as Well as a NJ MICP, I have ACLS, PALS, BTLS and AMLS. I have Been a Paramedic for about a Year and an EMT-B for About 5.... What could i expect in AIT. I am extremly psyced to go, but just wondering if i should keep my mouth shut or make it known that i have a clue in what im doing..... I go to MEPS on Friday so wish me luck!



Chuck Warwick, MICP, NREMT-P

[rooserdo]

hey guys!
well I'm kind of new here
i want to go in to the medical feild for the national guard
but im not sure what part yet
you all keep saying things like 91w and stuff but i dont no what all of that means so i was hoping u all coudl help me out a little and let me know what those things are and what they do
also would it be better to join adn then go to college or go to college and then join?
thanks
~katie~

[dragonfly]

Is 91W a very dangerous job in the ARNG? Are medics frequently deployed to Iraq and on the front lines?

[jbachandouris]

Is 91W a very dangerous job in the ARNG? Are medics frequently deployed to Iraq and on the front lines?

That's the question I wanted answered too. I am waiting for a waiver to clear at NGB and will be a 91W if accepted.

[Doc]

Being a 91 whiskey can you go out with an infantry or cav unit and provide minor wounds, or do you wait till needed.


Hi all, I have been a Medic my whole time in the Army, I was in the first class to take the NREMT-B course work (back in 1989) and that was back when the Medic program was only 10 weeks! Talk about cramming in some information!

I was a 91a which was your basic medic, I then became a 91b which is your senior medic, I thne went to Nursing school and became a 91c. Then the 91w
progran came out and I transitioned by taking a PHTLS course and became a 91w30m6.

The Whiskey program is tougher and longer, than back in the day. It is still only the EMT-B program but it should be at least the EMT-I because of all the stuff they teach you. I don't believe it is quite up to Paramedic standards, the thing is you learne different stuff, some of it lesser than Paramedic some of it higher level than paramedic (Chest tubes, Crico's, Venous cutdowns and intraoseous infusions).

It has a high drop out rate because people don't focus. It sounds much nicer than when I was there (we didn't have heated or air conditioned tents.

I hope that helps.

[Doc]

I am currently a NREMT-P as Well as a NJ MICP, I have ACLS, PALS, BTLS and AMLS. I have Been a Paramedic for about a Year and an EMT-B for About 5.... What could i expect in AIT. I am extremly psyced to go, but just wondering if i should keep my mouth shut or make it known that i have a clue in what im doing..... I go to MEPS on Friday so wish me luck!



Chuck Warwick, MICP, NREMT-P


Keep quiet and WOW them with your quick grasping of the concepts! :) They will figure you out soon enough. :)

[Doc]

That's the question I wanted answered too. I am waiting for a waiver to clear at NGB and will be a 91W if accepted.

It all depends on your unit. Are you going to be Infantry or a combat arms type, then yes you do go to the front lines (see saving private ryan and there medic). As a COMBAT Medic you are a rifleman first and don't do your medic stuff until someone is injured.

If you are in a Hospital or FSB you are a little more safe beacuse you are near the FOB or Rear. Don't think the red cross is a sheild either, they shhot medics.
In Vietnam the first 3 people to get hit were usually your LT (Command) Radio operator (commo) and your medic. (That is what I have been told)

Being a "Doc" is one of the best jobs in the military, it relates to the civilian world and if you take care of your guys they take care of you.

[Doc]

Ok, I am a nremt-b and have about 2yrs experience on the job. was wondering if during ait I would have to repeat that training or if I would just start with the medic training? and if so would I be able to take the NR for paramedic before or after taking additional "civilian" courses such as ecg recognition or the ladder? any info would be apprecitated as I am in the process of my enlistment paperwork.


This is contrary to what the other medic said but I don't think you can skip the Army's EMT-B course.

[prius.1]

As an 11B, we had a medic assigned to our platoon. Even through he as a SPC, we called him Doc. If you get assigned to a line unit, the Joes will treat you like a God, because basically, your job is to save their lives. As far a being an infantryman first, medic second, well, that didn't happen in our unit. The medic was free to go around to the different Joes and see how they were doing; after all, there were 38 of us.

As far as 91W School goes, wow, you're in for a shock. Are you single or with someone? That is an important question, because according to my spouse, who is currently in 91W in C CO, 232 Med Bn, Fort Sam, she only knows of 2 married females who haven't cheated on their spouse. Then there is the sexual harassment. Sure, the military says they don't support it, but come on, like they stop it. I had to contact the CO personally to get one soldier taken care of before I went down there and took care of it as a husband. Is the 16 week course hard? Yes, it's very hard. You are studying to become a soldier who saves soldiers lives. You also have the luxury of being yelled by at retards who instead of getting redeployed to Iraq, decided to stay at home and become drill sergeants.

Is the school worth going to? I think so. Is the military doing a horrible job at running the school? They sure are. So, once you finish BCT, don't breathe a sign of relief. You have 16 more weeks of drill sergeants to deal with before you'll actually be treated with the respect of a soldier.

[prius.1]

If you are already nationally certified, all you do is hang around the barracks answering the phone and wasting time. That is what one SPC told me the other day when I called, yet again, to talk to my spouses CO. I asked why she wasn't in school and she said she was already nationally certified. We talked for a few minutes

[Medic]

So what about prior-service/ those changing MOS, do we get treated like new soldiers by the Drill Sgt's?

[Medic]

Also, I though Medics were non-combatants, and armed with the M-9, is that wrong intel?

[BACH 74]

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[BACH 74]

IM not to sure about 91 w or 92 w trying to find a mos :cool: :confused:

[Mongoose772]

[QUOTE=Doc]Hi all, I have been a Medic my whole time in the Army, I was in the first class to take the NREMT-B course work (back in 1989) and that was back when the Medic program was only 10 weeks! Talk about cramming in some information!

What month did you go to AIT? I was in that same era class...late summer of 89! Good times. I remember watching the first Batman movie at the theater up on the hill.